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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 5:11 pm
Quote:No. I intended to bring only the sites that were originally built as mosque
And i'm bringing up the whole damn city
Quote:Just like the Spanish did to America. But we Muslims left the Spanish alive in their day.
Whataboutism and leaving people alive is hardly an accomplishment
Quote:No. The Byzantine empire initiated the assault on Muslims and initiated the invasion of Arabic lands, a war so long that ended in their defeat and the sack of their capital -Constantinople-.
Bullshit
Quote:No we Muslims don't do that. We invaded Egypt long ago but you still see the pyramids; right?
I'm not talking about Egypt
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 5:59 pm
(July 13, 2020 at 5:11 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:Just like the Spanish did to America. But we Muslims left the Spanish alive in their day.
Whataboutism and leaving people alive is hardly an accomplishment Leaving the natives of a conquered land alive and unharmed is evidence that the conquerors weren't bloodthirsty savages like you picture them. Islam conquered all of its current lands; if the picture you draw about Muslims is true then half of the globe would be empty.
Quote:Quote:No. The Byzantine empire initiated the assault on Muslims and initiated the invasion of Arabic lands, a war so long that ended in their defeat and the sack of their capital -Constantinople-.
Bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80...Background
Quote:Arab and Byzantine troops confronted each other at the Mu'tah in response to the murder of Muhammad's ambassador at the hands of the Ghassanids, a Byzantine vassal kingdom.
The Byzantines butchered Prophet Mohammed's ambassador, that was the reason Muslims targeted Constantinople itself for centuries until they conquered it.
Quote:Quote:No we Muslims don't do that. We invaded Egypt long ago but you still see the pyramids; right?
I'm not talking about Egypt
Egypt was an example, but you have Turkey too -lol; it's the conquered Byzantine empire-. Those Muslim Byzantines though are my brothers and sisters in Islam. This is how beautiful Islam is. Religion of peace truly; while your religion is the genocide of the weak -like the native Americans-.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 6:34 pm
(July 13, 2020 at 5:59 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (July 13, 2020 at 5:11 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Whataboutism and leaving people alive is hardly an accomplishment Leaving the natives of a conquered land alive and unharmed is evidence that the conquerors weren't bloodthirsty savages like you picture them. Islam conquered all of its current lands; if the picture you draw about Muslims is true then half of the globe would be empty.
Quote:Bullshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80...Background
Quote:Arab and Byzantine troops confronted each other at the Mu'tah in response to the murder of Muhammad's ambassador at the hands of the Ghassanids, a Byzantine vassal kingdom.
The Byzantines butchered Prophet Mohammed's ambassador, that was the reason Muslims targeted Constantinople itself for centuries until they conquered it.
Quote:I'm not talking about Egypt
Egypt was an example, but you have Turkey too -lol; it's the conquered Byzantine empire-. Those Muslim Byzantines though are my brothers and sisters in Islam. This is how beautiful Islam is. Religion of peace truly; while your religion is the genocide of the weak -like the native Americans-.
This thread is not about the Byzantine Empire, Trolly Trollerson.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 6:54 pm
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Quote:Leaving the natives of a conquered land alive and unharmed is evidence that the conquerors weren't bloodthirsty savages like you picture them. Islam conquered all of its current lands; if the picture you draw about Muslims is true then half of the globe would be empty.
Conquest is conquest no matter how nice the conquerors .Fact is you stole someone else's country and they had every right to kick you out .
Quote:The Byzantines butchered Prophet Mohammed's ambassador, that was the reason Muslims targeted Constantinople itself for centuries until they conquered it.
Nope Arabs had been and conquering and expanding into Christian lands before that so this is simply bull .
Quote:Egypt was an example, but you have Turkey too -lol; it's the conquered Byzantine empire-. Those Muslim Byzantines though are my brothers and sisters in Islam. This is how beautiful Islam is. Religion of peace truly; while your religion is the genocide of the weak -like the native Americans-.
Lol religion of peace
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 7:00 pm
Erdogan’s avowed path is simply that of a bloodthirsty totalitarian SS hyena that hates Western and Christian civilization. Islam has never had a period of civilization despite lies of George Soros’ cancel Culture Dhimmicrats.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 9:07 pm
(July 13, 2020 at 7:00 pm)masoni Wrote: Islam has never had a period of civilization
The Mughal Empire was a period of civilization.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 9:45 pm
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(July 13, 2020 at 7:00 pm)masoni Wrote: Erdogan’s avowed path is simply that of a bloodthirsty totalitarian SS hyena that hates Western and Christian civilization. Islam has never had a period of civilization despite lies of George Soros’ cancel Culture Dhimmicrats.
There is no Christian civilization; the west rose because it threw the Church in the garbage.
Turkey is a nato country that manufactures a lot, unlike the army of smelly thugs that lick Trump's boots in the morning then rape Egyptian women in the night. Muslims are 25% of this world.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 9:58 pm
(July 13, 2020 at 9:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: is no Christian civilization
If you're just wanting to tease Masoni, polymath, and Sungula for their obvious bigotry, then I'd understand saying this.
However, we have to admit that there have been majority-Christian societies which were civilizations.
Unless everybody wants to define "civilization" as a society that wasn't based on violence and had utopian equality throughout its existence. If that's the case, then such a thing has never existed.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 9:59 pm
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Quote:There is no Christian civilization; the west rose because it threw the Church in the garbage.
Questionable
Quote:Turkey is a nato country that manufactures a lot,
It also has committed atrocities and should not be in NATO
Quote: unlike the army of smelly thugs that lick Trump's boots in the morning then rape Egyptian women in the night.
There a lot of armies of thugs in middle east not all of them are aligned with Trump
Quote: Muslims are 25% of this world.
And?
(July 13, 2020 at 9:58 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (July 13, 2020 at 9:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: is no Christian civilization
If you're just wanting to tease Masoni, polymath, and Sungula for their obvious bigotry, then I'd understand saying this.d. I have not expressed any bigotry
1. Pointing the conquest of countries is wrong regardless of how nice you are is not bigotry and pointing Spain was invaded by Muslims is not bigotry
2. Criticizing his white washing of Islams involvement in Arab- Byzantine is not bigotry
3. Calling him out for his whataboutism about Egyptian mummies when Muslims have committed Iconoclasm is not bigotry
4. Stating Islam is not a religion of peace is not bigotry (few religions truly are) is not bigotry
Now i'm sure since bigotry concerns you so much take a look at all the awful shit he's said the west and it's people .
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 13, 2020 at 10:16 pm
(July 13, 2020 at 9:58 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (July 13, 2020 at 9:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: is no Christian civilization
If you're just wanting to tease Masoni, polymath, and Sungula for their obvious bigotry, then I'd understand saying this.
Oh look, an actual bigot accusing other people that they are bigots. What is next? A Nazi accusing other people that they are antisemitic?
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