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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 8:06 am
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I don’t think I have ever read an explanation as to why or how the Muslim community went from an enlightened, liberal society to the conservative dark alley of despair that we see today.
If it could happen to them, it can happen to America. Especially if these Republicans get their way.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 9:58 am
Its a dick move to convert a museum into a temple
Its the perogative of Erdogan/Turkey to do it.
Its a dick move to convert a musum into a temple
Its ok to keep it open to anyone interested (aka tourists) in parallel, giving Erdogan the benfit of doubt that he is sincere with this
Its a dick move to convert a museum into a temple
Its ok for everyone to have an opinion about it and, and possibly complain to Erdogan/Turkey
Its the perogative of Erdogan/Turkey to listen and respond to those opinions.
Its a dick move to convert a museum into a temple
The other bullshit i read in this thread about history (or the distortion of which so many seem to cling to) or generalisations about Islam/Muslims, is just that: bullshit
Oh, and fuck you, Masoni. I dont like Atlass or his likes particularly, but seriously: fuck you, sideways, wth a cactus glove, dumped in pepper spray.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 10:24 am
(July 14, 2020 at 2:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (July 13, 2020 at 5:59 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The Byzantines butchered Prophet Mohammed's ambassador, that was the reason Muslims targeted Constantinople itself for centuries until they conquered it. Sure, conquering an entire empire because an ambassador was killed. Completely reasonable and believable. 
Do you agree that it was only reasonable that the Mongols conquered Khwarezmia after the mongol ambassador was killed?
Yes. Harming the ambassador is a war deceleration.
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 10:45 am
(July 14, 2020 at 9:58 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Oh, and fuck you, Masoni. I dont like Atlass or his likes particularly, but seriously: fuck you, sideways, wth a cactus glove, dumped in pepper spray.
my dick is in ur asshole 
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 10:47 am
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Quote:Yes. Harming the ambassador is a war deceleration.
No it's not
Quote:my dick is in ur asshole
Guess he has not notice as it is microscopic in size
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 10:50 am
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(July 13, 2020 at 10:50 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (July 13, 2020 at 10:35 pm)masoni Wrote:
I have to fuck your ass and ur mother asshole too son of a whore
كسمك يا ابن المرة المتناكة الشرموطة الزانية
You can't. Face it: you're a bigot that uses internet forums to advocate the impaling of people for their religion.
hehe look who is talking to me
follower of the Arabian asshole who raped the children Aisha
(July 14, 2020 at 10:47 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:Yes. Harming the ambassador is a war deceleration.
No it's not
Quote:my dick is in ur asshole
Guess he has not notice as it is microscopic in size
it is not like yours due 
u need to try it first
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 10:56 am
Quote:it is not like yours due
u need to try it first
Nah you can tell be all your yapping it's tiny
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 11:00 am
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 11:00 am
(July 14, 2020 at 10:56 am)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:it is not like yours due
u need to try it first
Nah you can tell be all your yapping it's tiny U NEED TO TRY IT OR LET YOUR WOMEN TRY IT 
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RE: Turkey's Erdogan orders the conversion of Hagia Sophia back into a mosque
July 14, 2020 at 11:02 am
(July 14, 2020 at 8:06 am)Eleven Wrote: I don’t think I have ever read an explanation as to why or how the Muslim community went from an enlightened, liberal society to the conservative dark alley of despair that we see today.
If it could happen to them, it can happen to America. Especially if these Republicans get their way.
Well, part of the problem is that Al-Ghazali won the debate concerning whether 'foreign' knowledge was acceptable or not. While some did do good work after that point, the dominant view was that doing anything not deemed acceptable in the Koran was anti-Islamic and reprehensible. This extended into philosophy and even theology.
Because of the position that Allah recreates the universe at every instance according to his will, the whole notion of causality, and thereby of the ability of people to find natural laws, was discredited. One famous position of Ghazali was that a beheaded person would not necessarily die: if God wished otherwise, the person would continue to live. So *all* events were seen as disconnected from previous ones *except* through the will of God to be 'consistent'.
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