The Holy War

[AniKoferBo]

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Who let this dipstick back in?

It was a temporary ban, done in the (obviously vain) hope that he’d take the hint.

Boru

[brewer]

Can we persecute him some more please?

[Jehanne]

The best example of this is where He revealed Himself as the Savior of Israel when they were slaves in Egypt.  Those people there with their "gods" accepted the challenge against God.  He started with plagues.  But they were stubborn.  Then that stubborn spirit that they asked from God made them reject all of the plagues.  All of the warnings.  Then the consequences of their evil reached further and all the firstborn died.

You know, Johanabrahams, that this never happened. As archeologist Stephen Gabriel Rosenberg said: "The Exodus is so fundamental to us and our Jewish sources that it is embarrassing that there is no evidence outside of the Bible to support it."

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/op-ed-cont...say-348464

Johanabrahams, you claim to be some sort of a teacher and yet you still believe in fairytales.

The reality is, Johanabrahams, that you  are the pupil who needs to shut up and learn from us because you're completely ignorant.

Some Jews were probably living in Egypt all throughout the High, Middle and Low Kingdoms, and were there living and working.  No mass migration out, though, for the fundamental reasons that you cite.

[Johanabrahams]

You are welcome to your opinion.  But what you missed is that because i believe in "the exodus" i have my own.

It's not an opinion to believe in a fairytale but a lack of education, and for someone like you who wants to be a teacher, lack of education is not just a problem but a stopper. You have nothing to teach people if you think that fairytales are real, just as you would consider that someone who believes that Snow White and Seven Dwarfs are real can not be your teacher, we here consider you to be uncapable for a teacher because Exodus and other fairytales from the Bible are on the same level of credibility as Snow White and Seven Dwarfs.

Try to get that in your head. I corrected you and you should be thankful for it because I helped you not to believe in lies anymore, and for you to try to wiggle out of it or reject what I thought you would be foolish of you.

You have nothing to teach people

I have and I am.  20 years ago the churches were busy with corporal punishment.  And I showed them Gods Way in Love and Wisdom.  Starting with Forgiveness.   The reason why I showed them is because they didn't accept the teaching I have them on it.  And neither did the accept my 4 years of living with them in Die Herberg.  Where they witnessed my Disciplinary Method from God in Love and Wisdom towards my Kids.  They always maintained that there is no Power in Forgiveness and then the next Phase of speaking in Love words of Wisdom. 

They believed that their corporal punishment from "their god" was the Truth.  Because their "clergy" gave it to them.  They never took it serious that the "clergy" are the Pharisees and the "serpents and vipers". 

Mat. 23
 29  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 

  30  And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 
  31  Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 
  32  Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 
  33  Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 
  34  ¶Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 
  35  That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 
  36  Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.


So they took on the Fight with God that was in Me.   Approximately 5000 of them.  And they used all they had.  Namecalling, assaults, police, courts, certifying and after 20 years of that they are sick to death.  I am still fresh.  Starting with the "second phase" now.

So what are actually the things that happened already in this second phase?  Can you name them?

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The best example of this is where He revealed Himself as the Savior of Israel when they were slaves in Egypt.  Those people there with their "gods" accepted the challenge against God.  He started with plagues.  But they were stubborn.  Then that stubborn spirit that they asked from God made them reject all of the plagues.  All of the warnings.  Then the consequences of their evil reached further and all the firstborn died.

You know, Johanabrahams, that this never happened. As archeologist Stephen Gabriel Rosenberg said: "The Exodus is so fundamental to us and our Jewish sources that it is embarrassing that there is no evidence outside of the Bible to support it."

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/op-ed-cont...say-348464

Johanabrahams, you claim to be some sort of a teacher and yet you still believe in fairytales.

The reality is, Johanabrahams, that you  are the pupil who needs to shut up and learn from us because you're completely ignorant.

The reality is, Johanabrahams, that you  are the pupil who needs to shut up and learn from us because you're completely ignorant.

No problem.  So what do you think I should do about my children that are crying because as they said I am not greeting them on the street?

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The Holy War is a War that God initiates. 

The best example of this is where He revealed Himself as the Savior of Israel when they were slaves in Egypt.  Those people there with their "gods" accepted the challenge against God.  He started with plagues.  But they were stubborn.  Then that stubborn spirit that they asked from God made them reject all of the plagues.  All of the warnings.  Then the consequences of their evil reached further and all the firstborn died.  Still they didn't listen and their whole army died.  Maybe at that time they were finished as a "ruling nation".  If you have no army and no men able to fight you are in a serious "lost" position against all around you that you ruled because of your "army" 

And God prepared me for one.  And in the year 2000 it started.  In Robertson South Africa.  It was of course the second coming of Jesus Christ.  Starting there and moving out. 

This is official.  There is a court case running in Robertson.  With the leader chosen to head it.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o3hpgdnoec22m...Ti_4a?dl=0

God already prepared me.  With my family.  He spoke to me about how to discipline my child in Love and Wisdom from the year 1996.  I deviated from the church religion where we were taught to act in corporal punishment.  This is basically ruling in fear.   Your child has to fear the pain you are going to inflict on its body. 

We are God's Children and don't find our Power in the physical realm but in the Spiritual Realm.   So I had to change to Love and Wisdom.    Of course I was up against the religions.  Because I basically said they are lying.  For 4 years I disciplined my Children in Love and Wisdom.  And then God said I have to move out from my family to the community.  It is written in the Bible. 

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...8377519106

I first gave them the teaching on it.  Which they rejected.  The rejected it because they say there is no power to discipline in Love and Wisdom.  Starting with Forgiveness.  When your child do wrong you have first of all to forgive them.  This cancels the evil spirit of anger given to those that want to act in the power of physical pain inflicted to cause fear.    Then you have to speak in Love and Wisdom.  Which is the Power by which Jesus acted.  You reveal the devil in all its evil and speak the Words of Love and Wisdom towards it.  This is of course the "clergy" that introduced the lies "as from God".

Mat. 3
  ¶But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

So I had to show them!

And the War started. 

I acted in the Power of the Holy Spirit in Die Herberg. 

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...80#p626284

And I moved out onto the streets.  In God's Power.  With Him Laughing and Shouting from my body. 

Psalm 2
 4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.*n3

Isaiah 42
13 The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.*n5
14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: nowwill I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.

Strange way of Fighting?  God's way.  Sure it look like "madness".  But there were some that were with me.   They are not in hiding "sacrosanct".  They Love to speak about this.  Daniel Maarmann came to stay with me in the year 2001 and walked with me the streets.  Laughing.   I gave His number to @Abaddon_ire.  He waits on Him to contact Him.  Unfortunately he has only the way of telephone.  And  in the year 2002 a Teacher in Christianity with his own Church met with me.  We worked together for a "boss" in a welding business.  His name is Michael Solomon.  I made a recording or our conversation where He said He would love to speak to @Abaddon_ire in email or telephone. I will give his number to @Abaddon_ire too.  Because you don't want it right here where Michael actually wants it.  You are into "incognito".   I made a recording with his permission.  Because we are not into "sacrosanct".  God is not into that too.  We work in the Light of God.   Or differently said.  The public.  Where Jesus also operated.  

John 3
18  ¶He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 19  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
 20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
 21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/55y5jbojqonzjt...a.mp3?dl=0

Most is in Afrikaans.  But in the end when @Abaddon_ire were mentioned it was in English.  Enjoy!  Maybe @flakingnapstich will also be interested.  Because this is a whole new approach again.   Starting it officially as a member of the Dutch Reformed Church in Robertson and also a Reverend in the Dutch Reformed Church. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5tozgn7xikueb....html?dl=0

I have already distributed some of this pamphlets.  And I have already started with Eduard. 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/do7x8fbp9owfc...tYsLa?dl=0

Enjoy! 

I think I will take this to all Christian forums that I frequent too.  Then we can see what they say.  As they are the "generation of vipers" I will mostly get "banned".  For the Truth.  But the Truth will stick with them.  And some will change.  

Because this has a new reason for moving with more force now.  My daughter "crying".  So I have to take them on again.  For the sake of her "crying".  The reason for her crying is on the internet.  But when I published it in ISF it was removed.  It is not "sacrosanct".  But it will be mentioned in that meeting that is coming.    My physical daughter now crying for 20 years.  For me. And kept from me by an evil spirit. Because they are indoctrinating her.  Just like they did with @Abaddon_ire.  With "sacrosanct".  Behind my back.  Where I am kept away.  To keep her from listening to my side too.  So evil!  But I am taking the devil on.  In the Power of God.

Watch!

With the World.  Because the second coming is all over the world. 

Facebook is watching:

https://www.facebook.com/johan.abrahams....7666750354

Twitter is watching:

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...7190962177

At Distorted View we are chatting on it.  But they are "Distorted" and I can not link them.  They don't want outsiders to see their mistakes.  They are "sacrosanct".  So if you want to chat with us there on this you will have to ask one of the "mods" like @flakingnapstich to sent you an invitation.  Then we can chat on it.  Face to face.  Or rather Words to words.

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Well, that was Boering.

Boru

Ok.  No problem.  Tell me why?

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Sounds like god has some issues he needs to work out.

God lost the will to live when he realized he wasn't the center of everyone's attention.

Putting your trademark on toast was rock bottom.

You should keep this away from me.  When you attacked me the previous time all cried to the mods to assist them in banning me.  You lost that one.  So let us keep this just to the point of the Holy War.  That should satisfy the mods that I am not "trolling" you.  I am the most obedient man on earth and never banned for disobedience. 

God lost the will to live when he realized he wasn't the center of everyone's attention.

You missed the actual point.  My children are crying because i do not greet them on the streets. 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/do7x8fbp9owfc...tYsLa?dl=0

Any ideas?

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I always imagined a holy war to be strictly between heaven and hell. Otherwise, it’s just a religious war of fallible humans on both sides fighting about who’s god is bigger and badder.

Here is the one you are referring to. 

Churches don’t have the Peace of God.  They are the Babies fighting one another.  

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...2692046848

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...0628746240

Going to court for help means there is no Wise man among you.  

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...1664769024

Jesus brought Peace 2000 years ago. But the Babies of God do not know about it.  

https://twitter.com/johanabrahams2/statu...3449729029

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So what is the difference with the one I am busy with?

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God spoke to you?
What language did he speak in?
What accent did he have?
Did he have a male or female voice?
Was he loud or quiet?

We need details, otherwise it sounds like you are just another crazy person hearing voices.

No problem.  He said that I should change from the "godly way" of corporal punishment to Love and Wisdom in my house. 

This was an example in Die Herberg for 4 years.

Then I had to take it to them.  First with a teaching because I know the details now of Disciplinning in Love and Wisdom.  It was rejected as from God. 

Then I had to show them.  First in Die Herberg and then in the churches and then in the streets. 

Now I am getting into the "official" side of it.  Organizing a meeting with the church leaders.  Eduard is busy with that.  And then I have Michael there and Daniel who actually walked the streets with me from the year 2001.  I gave his telephone number to @Abaddon_ire because He like to chat about it in the open.  So when @Abaddon_ire contact him he should switch on the recording of his phone and give us the conversation.  Of course he has to ask permission from him which he will gladly give.  And the same with Michael Solomon.  I have forgotten to give this number and will do it immediately. 

And I just did it. 

So my side of The Light of God is over here. 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/do7x8fbp9owfc...tYsLa?dl=0

Now we are just waiting on @Abaddon_ire that has to follow The Light and not "sacrosanct".  Sacrosanct is human and The Light is God. 

 John 3 
 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 
 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


The Babies in the Churches are still very much human.  Just forgive them and don't be caught by them.  That will make you "peyronies".  And that @flakingnapstich can tells us much about. 

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.ph...61#p639761

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God spoke to you?
I believe it was him. Who else has such technology?
What language did he speak in?
My language, in my accent and in my voice. He uses an advanced universal translator.
Was he loud or quiet?
50% volume. Quite comfortable really. and in Quadraphonic!

(I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid!)

No problem.  Here are your evidence. 

https://atheistforums.org/thread-61310-p...pid1987847

[Johanabrahams]

You know, Johanabrahams, that this never happened. As archeologist Stephen Gabriel Rosenberg said: "The Exodus is so fundamental to us and our Jewish sources that it is embarrassing that there is no evidence outside of the Bible to support it."

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/op-ed-cont...say-348464

Johanabrahams, you claim to be some sort of a teacher and yet you still believe in fairytales.

The reality is, Johanabrahams, that you  are the pupil who needs to shut up and learn from us because you're completely ignorant.

Shame it's back.

But you are correct.  There was no exodus, were no plagues, no drowned army and absolutely no hundreds of thousands, or even thousands, of hebrew slaves in Egypt.

Now there is a "drowned 5000" white South Africans in Robertson.  I drowned them with anger using a "cudgel" or I drowned them by using Forgiveness and then actin in Love and Wisdom of God. 

So where do you stand?

Because this has to do now about my physical children crying while my Spiritual Children are Laughing. 

So it seems.  There was an "Exodus".  Because I warned them too.  I gave them the teaching and my Life in Die Herberg for 4 years.

[ignoramus]

[Johanabrahams]

re Distorted View, I wonder does Johan mean this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/distortedview/c...istianity/

I haven't listened to the youtube as I'm on break from work.  But if that's what he's talking about, they're laughing at him, not with him.

I wonder does Johan mean this?

Yep.  It is about this.  I only went there now.  I did try previously but got blocked.   And i went a bit deeper into the "block" and sorted it out.  As it seems the mistake was this time from my side.  I am not used to me being the mistake in "block".  Blocks are usually done by those running from me.

But if that's what he's talking about, they're laughing at him, not with him.

You are catching up.  God is the One Laughing all the Way.  So let us see who are those with God and Laughing. 


Psalm 2
  1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?*n1*n2
  2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
  3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
  4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
  5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.*n3
  6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.*n4*n5
  7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.*n6
  8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
  9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
  10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
  11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
  12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

So let us start this conversation here and over there.  Why do you say: "They are laughing"?

[Fake Messiah]

The reality is, Johanabrahams, that you  are the pupil who needs to shut up and learn from us because you're completely ignorant.

No problem.  So what do you think I should do about my children that are crying because as they said I am not greeting them on the street?

What you should do is get psychiatric help, because you are not a mother and you don't have 1500 children (or how many thousands you claim). Really, just go to a psychiatrist and tell him what you told us and see what happens.

Really, this forum is turning into a free mental clinic for religious nut jobs.

[Foxaèr]

A man who babbles about war will never find true peace of mind.