Are there other paradoxes analogous to the so-called "Paradox of Hedonism"?

[Porcupine]

Are there other paradoxes analogous to the so-called "Paradox of Hedonism"?

To quote from the Wikipedia article on the matter the Paradox of Hedonism:

refers to the practical difficulties encountered in the pursuit of pleasure. For the hedonist, constant pleasure-seeking may not yield the most actual pleasure or happiness in the long run—or even in the short run, when consciously pursuing pleasure interferes with experiencing it.

I think I first something similar when I was a small child when I would struggle with insomnia and barely sleep properly compared to other children.

Then, one day, my frustration at my difficulties with sleeping started to bother me even more than the lack of sleep itself and I told myself, basically, "I don't care if I struggle sleeping anymore. I just don't want to be frustrated like this."

That night I stopped trying to sleep and that night I had the best sleep I'd had in years. I've been able to sleep better ever since.

So what I wonder is ... how many similar paradoxes are there?

I think I have identified a few and I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the following.

1. The Paradox of Pragmatism: Trying to be pragmatic tends to lead to frustration at failing to find anything useful. Seeking the truth for its own sake tends to more likely lead to discoveries that end up being useful by accident.

2. The Paradox of Consequentialism: Actively trying to directly practice consequentialism tends to lead to more negative consequences.

3. The Paradox of Trying to Find Oneself: Going on a trip to "find oneself" leads to your self being nowhere to be find.

4. The Paradox of Trying to Lose Oneself: Trying to lose your sense of self leads to constantly bumping into your self.

Those are a few that I think apply. Any discoveries I have made are, of course, not unique to me.

Thoughts? And would you say that this is interesting and not total B.S. or not interesting and total B.S? I have put up a poll on that matter.

[AniKoferBo]

I concede that Hedonism is A prevalent trait in the nature of humans

[Sal]

Reminds me of the trick in mindfulness meditation: If you try to be mindful, you are not, and when you are not mindful, you are. Tossing and turning in bed, attempting to sleep is going about it the wrong way, you just need to relax and stop thinking about trying to sleep. I view it as a bug in cognition, when introspecting one's own thoughts one has a tendency to overthink things instead of just being. Just how long is one able to not think anything? It seems to me to be a constant stream of consciousness, which I've found mindfulness practice is able to interrupt, sorta, making you aware and cogent of your emotions and thinking patterns more attunely.

[The Grand Nudger]

A paradox isn't just some point of frustration or criticism with a specific meta-ethic. It's when the system turns on itself like a snake eating it's tail.

It's not a paradox of pragmatism if or when we feel frustrated, or because we might believe that seeking truth for it's own sake, whatever that entails, is better (by whatever metric).

Consequentialism is affirmed, and not in a paradoxical state, if one's actions lead to outcomes at all.

What you're discussing are problems of agency and competency, not paradoxes.

[Porcupine]

@The Grand Nudger

Your appear to miss the point. I am not talking about literal paradoxes. I am talking about so-called paradoxes that are analogous to the so-called paradox of hedonism.

If you take issue with the word 'paradox' then just substitute another word or words that you deem to be more appropriate. The whole point is that I'm asking if there are other things analogous to such a thing.

So, I'm not saying that pragmatism is paradoxical in the literal sense. And "the paradox of" may indeed be a misnomer. Hence why I said so-called paradox both in my thread title and my OP.

The point is that in the case of pragmatism it would qualify as analogous to the case of hedonism if trying to be useful leads to less usefulness.

Why? Because this is analogous to trying to find pleasure leading to less pleasure.

You missed the point in the case of consequentialism as well. I agree that consequentialism is affirmed. It makes sense in theory. I'd even go further and say it's true. The point is that the analogy would apply if trying to practice the theory leads to more negative consequences than not trying to practice the theory.

What you're discussing are problems of agency and competency, not paradoxes.

I hope it's clear that this completely 100% misses the point.