That Gay Thread

[The Architect Of Fate]

Well, well, well, look at this. There goes @Huggy Bear’s entire argument right out the window. Took me all of 30 seconds to find this info. I’m sure there’s more. Huggy, you said:

These LBGT advocacy groups preach how LGBT are often victims of violence, yet when it's white LBGT perpetrating violence on Black LBGT AND NOT BEING PUNISHED, can't get so much as a tweet from GLAAD, or any other LBGT organization that's supposed to be ADVOCATING...

Not a single tweet from GLAAD, huh?:



and:

A coalition of 41 LGBT and allied organizations called for a thorough and independent investigation.

Full article linked below:

https://www.ebar.com/news/latest_news//270680

You sad idiot. Only ever seeing what you want to see. I’m sorry the facts don’t line up with your feelings. Now the countdown to a goal post shift.

Of course, he going to whine that they did object in 2017. Which is just shifting the goalpost.

[LadyForCamus]

Which is a ridiculous objection, because at the time it was only one man. It’s certainly not inconceivable that an accident could have happened, considering the circumstances surrounding his death. Obviously, a second death in the exact same manner and in the exact same location is exponentially more suspicious, and will inevitably draw exponentially more attention than the first.

[Rev. Rye]

Hindsight is 20/20, but, as I said before, in 2017, when the first death took place, Buck was just an obscure donor who didn’t even merit a Wikipedia page until he started getting harassment from Qanon/Pizzagate types (hardly the picture of credibility then or now) over what looked to be an accidental drug overdose. Of course, it turned out to be much worse, but , frankly, their silence in 2017 makes a depressing amount of sense.

[LadyForCamus]

Not to mention, what would follow from the line of reasoning that “they” didn’t speak out in 2017 because racism? That “they” were racist in 2017 but not in 2019? And then racist again in 2021? Derp.

[LadyForCamus]

Sharper then you any day of the week numbskull

Sorry to disappoint you sweet pea, but there's plenty more where this came from.

Wrong, males come from a unfertilized egg, meaning they have no father....

Oh, man, I missed this. I knew it wouldn’t be long before Huggy brought out the “bees” copy/paste. 😂

[LadyForCamus]

So, in the interest of streamlining the conversion so as not to get lost in semantic debate:

Ed Buck got away with it for years, until BLACK PEOPLE made enough noise and got him arrested, where was all this advocacy from white LBGT organizations for the dead black gay men? Nothing but cricket from white LBGT on Ed Buck.

Demonstrated false, unless you can produce a list of all-white LGBTQ organizations and then show that they were not among the forty one LGBTQ organizations calling for Ed Buck to be arrested after the second killing. 

Now you did ask me about lbgt advocates and my question to you (which you never answered btw) was where were these white lbgt advocates when a white lbgt was essentially getting away with murduing two gay black men? They never said one word about Ed Buck,yet they have all the smoke for Dave Chappelle. Miss me with that.

Demonstrated false. Forty one LGBTQ organizations, safe to assume containing at least some white members, demanded justice after the second killing.

It took a second victim and BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS, which included gay black people, but not one white LBGT organization was involve in bringing Ed Buck to justice. Again, GLAAD, and other LBGT advocacy groups has all this smoke for Dave Chapelle, but couldn't seem to utter a peep against Ed Buck, while he continued to drug and abuse Gay black men.

Again, unless you can demonstrate these all-white LGBTQ organizations and show they weren’t among the forty one LGBTQ groups demanding an arrest, then this claim has been shown to be patently, absurdly false.

Now, the question I have for you @Huggy Bear is, will you take a moment to accept that you did not have the pertinent facts to form a complete picture of this topic, and reconsider your position going forward? Or are you just going to double down and barrel forward with inane, and irrelevant semantics because you can’t handle the thought that you were wrong about something?

The genuinely heartbreaking take-away from this conversation is that broadly speaking, you’re not even wrong in believing that the reason it took so long for this man to be charged was, at least in part, because his victims were sex workers who belonged to marginalized groups. We know that law enforcement doesn’t prioritize these types of cases, and we know that marginalized victims don’t get the same media attention as white, straight, cis people. The Gabby Petito case is a perfect example of that. But for whatever reason, instead of seeing the LGBTQ community as an ally to the BPOC community, you believe they’re aggressors out to hurt you. Ironically, if it hadn’t been for the resounding voice of the forty one plus (you should really read that article) LGBTQ organizations in concert with the Black Civil Rights organizations crying out for justice in this case, Ed Buck might still be free somewhere, killing gay black men. But somewhere along the line you learned to hate the people who are on your side.

[Fireball]

So, in the interest of streamlining the conversion so as not to get lost in semantic debate:

Ed Buck got away with it for years, until BLACK PEOPLE made enough noise and got him arrested, where was all this advocacy from white LBGT organizations for the dead black gay men? Nothing but cricket from white LBGT on Ed Buck.

Demonstrated false, unless you can produce a list of all-white LGBTQ organizations and then show that they were not among the forty one LGBTQ organizations calling for Ed Buck to be arrested after the second killing. 

Now you did ask me about lbgt advocates and my question to you (which you never answered btw) was where were these white lbgt advocates when a white lbgt was essentially getting away with murduing two gay black men? They never said one word about Ed Buck,yet they have all the smoke for Dave Chappelle. Miss me with that.

Demonstrated false. Forty one LGBTQ organizations, safe to assume containing at least some white members, demanded justice after the second killing.

It took a second victim and BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS, which included gay black people, but not one white LBGT organization was involve in bringing Ed Buck to justice. Again, GLAAD, and other LBGT advocacy groups has all this smoke for Dave Chapelle, but couldn't seem to utter a peep against Ed Buck, while he continued to drug and abuse Gay black men.

Again, unless you can demonstrate these all-white LGBTQ organizations and show they weren’t among the forty one LGBTQ groups demanding an arrest, then this claim has been shown to be patently, absurdly false.

Now, the question I have for you @Huggy Bear is, will you take a moment to accept that you did not have the pertinent facts to form a complete picture of this topic, and reconsider your position going forward? Or are you just going to ignore all that and barrel forward with inane, irrelevant semantic arguments because you can’t handle the thought that you were wrong about something?

The sad part of this whole conversation is that broadly speaking, you’re not even wrong in believing that the reason it took so long for this man to be charged is because his victims were sex workers who belonged to marginalized groups. We know that law enforcement doesn’t prioritize these types of cases compared to others, and we know that marginalized victims don’t get the same media attention as white, straight, cis people. The Gabby Petito case is a perfect example of that. But for whatever reason, instead of seeing the LGBTQ community as an ally to the BPOC community, you believe they’re aggressors out to hurt you. Ironically, if it hadn’t been for the resounding voice of the forty one LGBTQ organizations in concert with the Black Civil Rights organizations crying out for justice in this case, Ed Buck might still be free somewhere, killing gay black men. But somewhere along the line you learned to hate the people who are on your side.

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[Rev. Rye]

And a link to the statement with the 41 signatories. Admittedly, not all are gay organizations, but then again, there's even a lot that are focused on neither gay issues nor black issues. It's weird, it's almost like the left has recognised that they're stronger when they're not zeroing in on infighting.

[LadyForCamus]

And a link to the statement with the 41 signatories. Admittedly, not all are gay organizations, but then again, there's even a lot that are focused on neither gay issues nor black issues. It's weird, it's almost like the left has recognised that they're stronger when they're not zeroing in on infighting.

Yes, thank you for the correction. It was a coalition of LGBTQ organizations and ally organizations. Clearly, Huggy knew nothing of it. But you won’t find what you don’t want to find, and won’t look for.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Sorry to disappoint you sweet pea, but there's plenty more where this came from.

Oh, man, I missed this. I knew it wouldn’t be long before Huggy brought out the “bees” copy/paste. 😂

It's his  favorite Red Herring