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August 2, 2020 at 3:44 pm
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(August 2, 2020 at 2:01 pm)Fireball Wrote: From Wiki-
Nassar's cumulative sexual assault crimes were the basis of the that began in 2015, in which he was accused of assaulting at least 250 young women and girls dating back to 1992.
Looks like an equal opportunity freak to me. Actually, this is a different creep doctor affiliated with a different college in Michigan named Robert Anderson. He seemed to have worked in an earlier time than Nassar, and, while the details are unclear, it appears he had a less ingenious MO than co-opting a legit medical technique just legitimate enough that if he explained it and You did a bit of research, it could be very convincing, but Still obscure enough that people are unlikely to call bullshit when his procedure fucks up the standard protocol so badly.
Also, having looked further into the article, I found this line from the lawyer: “We’ve never seen this many young African American men abused in any setting by the same person, but certainly not in the setting of one of the most prestigious universities in the world,” White said.
So, yes, Huggy Bear clearly is using a case that is explicitly labeled as an outlier that happened a hundred years after the abolition of slavery to try and prove that it was common practice for slave owners to rape their male slaves.
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 12:40 pm
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(August 2, 2020 at 3:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (August 2, 2020 at 2:01 pm)Fireball Wrote: From Wiki-
Nassar's cumulative sexual assault crimes were the basis of the that began in 2015, in which he was accused of assaulting at least 250 young women and girls dating back to 1992.
Looks like an equal opportunity freak to me. Actually, this is a different creep doctor affiliated with a different college in Michigan named Robert Anderson. He seemed to have worked in an earlier time than Nassar, and, while the details are unclear, it appears he had a less ingenious MO than co-opting a legit medical technique just legitimate enough that if he explained it and You did a bit of research, it could be very convincing, but Still obscure enough that people are unlikely to call bullshit when his procedure fucks up the standard protocol so badly.
Also, having looked further into the article, I found this line from the lawyer: “We’ve never seen this many young African American men abused in any setting by the same person, but certainly not in the setting of one of the most prestigious universities in the world,” White said.
So, yes, Huggy Bear clearly is using a case that is explicitly labeled as an outlier that happened a hundred years after the abolition of slavery to try and prove that it was common practice for slave owners to rape their male slaves.
Everything is an 'outlier'... I posted that article because it literally just came out.
Ed Buck: Man suspected of preying on gay black men arrested after years of accusations
Actor Terry Crews: I was sexually assaulted by Hollywood executive
Quote:Crews described how, at an industry function in 2016, an unnamed male executive groped his genitals in front of his wife and “grinned like a jerk” at the pair’s shocked response.
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August 3, 2020 at 12:54 pm
So Huggy, you are not for equality for LGBTQ people because some of them don't behave properly?
I mean I understand you Huggy. I myself was prepared to support the humanity of Black people until I saw someone set a car on fire.
Also, I don’t know if I can support slavery abolition because I read someone burned a field of cotton. That’s going too far.
And although I’m not racist, I just find it difficult to distinguish the murdering of a Black person from the breaking of a window. It’s equally violent, right?
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 1:11 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 12:40 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Everything is an 'outlier'... I posted that article because it literally just came out.
Ed Buck: Man suspected of preying on gay black men arrested after years of accusations
Actor Terry Crews: I was sexually assaulted by Hollywood executive
Quote:Crews described how, at an industry function in 2016, an unnamed male executive groped his genitals in front of his wife and “grinned like a jerk” at the pair’s shocked response.
So, Terry Crews getting groped by Adam Venit four years ago is proof that it was a common practice for slaveholders to rape their male slaves in front of their families?
Also, do you even know what " outlier" even means?
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 7:33 pm
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(August 3, 2020 at 1:11 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (August 3, 2020 at 12:40 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Everything is an 'outlier'... I posted that article because it literally just came out.
Ed Buck: Man suspected of preying on gay black men arrested after years of accusations
Actor Terry Crews: I was sexually assaulted by Hollywood executive
So, Terry Crews getting groped by Adam Venit four years ago is proof that it was a common practice for slaveholders to rape their male slaves in front of their families?
Man please, the executive knew that Terry couldn't do anything about it and HE WASN'T A DAMN SLAVE.
What you don't get is there are practices from slavery still being practiced because we are still under a system of white supremacy. The emasculation of black men in Hollywood is a known thing, There is a famous clip of Dave Chapelle speaking on black men being required to wear a dress a some point in their career to become successful, which is another practice from slavery.
Men without Pants: Masculinity and the Enslaved
Quote:Perhaps one of slave owners’ more innovatively cruel strategies concerned the ways they sought to completely emasculate enslaved boys and men—by denying them the right to wear pants. By forcing young African American boys and men to wear dress-like shirts, the owners of flesh attempted to feminize and humiliate enslaved males on a daily basis. According to scores of interviews with the formerly enslaved, denying black boys and young men the right to wear pants was a relatively widespread practice throughout the Deep South.
(August 3, 2020 at 1:11 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Also, do you even know what "outlier" even means? to quote from your link
Quote:In statistics, an outlier is a data point that differs significantly from other observations.
Please tell me where I can find these statistics of how uncommon the rape of male slaves on plantations was for the last 400 years...
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August 3, 2020 at 7:45 pm
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@ Huggy Bear
Which has fuck all to do with homosexuality?
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August 3, 2020 at 7:56 pm
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FINALLY! We’re finally getting into shit that’s actually attested to in sources written before 2010! And sources both scholarly and primary at that!
So, you’re arguing that slave holders found ways to emasculate black men, and this time around, you’ve got something true, so now we can actually get somewhere and not get bogged down in questions of “did this actually happen?” And “How often?”
So, now I guess the question now is: is this sort of shit really representative of gay people as a whole, or are you using the same mindset white supremacists use to write off the entire black race as stupid and violent, just like Fake Messiah did sarcastically a few posts ago? Because, frankly, that’s what I’m seeing from you.
Side note: I recently rewatched Roots, and it looks like in a few scenes in the middle two episodes, John Amos’ Kunta Kinte seems to be wearing a shirt that looks a lot like a muumuu. Less extreme than many of the primary sources I could find, of course, but it did help this toubab give you the benefit of the doubt in the minute or so before I did some fact checking and found it checked out.
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 8:18 pm
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(August 3, 2020 at 7:45 pm)Eleven Wrote: @Huggy Bear
Which has fuck all to do with homosexuality?
Indeed, if it was possible, and I ain't volunteering a mod for the job by any means, this whole line of shit about "buck breaking" should have it's own thread. It ISN'T homosexuality, per se.
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 8:34 pm
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(August 3, 2020 at 7:56 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: FINALLY! We’re finally getting into shit that’s actually attested to in sources written before 2010! And sources both scholarly and primary at that!
So, you’re arguing that slave holders found ways to emasculate black men, and this time around, you’ve got something true, so now we can actually get somewhere and not get bogged down in questions of “did this actually happen?” And “How often?”
So, now I guess the question now is: is this sort of shit really representative of gay people as a whole, or are you using the same mindset white supremacists use to write off the entire black race as stupid and violent, just like Fake Messiah did sarcastically a few posts ago? Because, frankly, that’s what I’m seeing from you.
Side note: I recently rewatched Roots, and it looks like in a few scenes in the middle two episodes, John Amos’ Kunta Kinte seems to be wearing a shirt that looks a lot like a muumuu. Less extreme than many of the primary sources I could find, of course, but it did help this toubab give you the benefit of the doubt in the minute or so before I did some fact checking and found it checked out. Or even a majority or even a sizable minority (spoilers it isn't ) and i point out that even that source doesn't make the primary culprits gay it's seems more like straight men protecting their fragile masculinity
It's just more demonization .Huggy is no better than the racists who try and make all black men thugs because a few are .
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 8:36 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 7:56 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: FINALLY! We’re finally getting into shit that’s actually attested to in sources written before 2010! And sources both scholarly and primary at that!
So, you’re arguing that slave holders found ways to emasculate black men, and this time around, you’ve got something true, so now we can actually get somewhere and not get bogged down in questions of “did this actually happen?” And “How often?”
So, now I guess the question now is: is this sort of shit really representative of gay people as a whole, or are you using the same mindset white supremacists use to write off the entire black race as stupid and violent, just like Fake Messiah did sarcastically a few posts ago? Because, frankly, that’s what I’m seeing from you.
Side note: I recently rewatched Roots, and it looks like in a few scenes in the middle two episodes, John Amos’ Kunta Kinte seems to be wearing a shirt that looks a lot like a muumuu. Less extreme than many of the primary sources I could find, of course, but it did help this toubab give you the benefit of the doubt in the minute or so before I did some fact checking and found it checked out.
My original post was in response to this
(July 16, 2020 at 10:14 pm)ignoramus Wrote: With all the inequalities and prejudices about, it must be a real pain in the ass to be gay Ignoring the obvious pun...
My point was, the white LBGT community has been practicing and benefiting from white supremacy, they aren't oppressed... The only example people came up with was Stonewall, and those responsible for that riot were BLACK lbgt, and it was FAR more likely that their blackness was more of a factor than their gayness...
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