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August 3, 2020 at 10:35 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 10:07 pm)Eleven Wrote: (August 3, 2020 at 10:02 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Once again name a law that specifically targeted homosexuals.
Sodomy Laws
US Sodomy Laws
Your added citation that several states rewrote their sodomy laws in such a way that they targeted only gay people is also a good find. If only I wasn’t in a bit of a hurry to write my reply so I could take a bath.
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August 3, 2020 at 11:10 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 10:07 pm)Eleven Wrote: (August 3, 2020 at 10:02 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Once again name a law that specifically targeted homosexuals.
Sodomy Laws
US Sodomy Laws Those aren't specific to gay people.
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August 3, 2020 at 11:21 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 11:10 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: (August 3, 2020 at 10:07 pm)Eleven Wrote: Sodomy Laws
US Sodomy Laws Those aren't specific to gay people.
1) actually, some were written to be specifically target only gay people. Kit’s first link lists several states that rewrote their sodomy laws specifically to target only gay people and not heterosexual sodomy.
2) even when they weren’t written to be gay-specific, gay people were invariably disproportionately targeted. And, if I’m not mistaken, isn’t shit like that STILL a problem with black people? Getting disproportionately targeted for enforcement of laws, resulting in a disproportionately Large Number of people being turned into criminals by the system?
Seriously, this was asked and answered like an hour ago.
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RE: That Gay Thread
August 3, 2020 at 11:33 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 11:10 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Those aren't specific to gay people.
Were you expecting something similar to Jim Crow Laws that affected black people?
Your fault is in your thinking process, that there must be active laws specifically targeting gay people, in order for them to be, what, legally discriminated against?
The discrimination exists, and that is most important. Inequality, no matter who is affected, is what matters and needs major attention toward change.
Legislation affecting gay rights across America
Gay people aren't fully protected in America
Laws that threaten LGBTQ equality
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August 3, 2020 at 11:47 pm
(August 3, 2020 at 11:21 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (August 3, 2020 at 11:10 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Those aren't specific to gay people.
1) actually, some were written to be specifically target only gay people. Kit’s first link lists several states that rewrote their sodomy laws specifically to target only gay people and not heterosexual sodomy.
2) even when they weren’t written to be gay-specific, gay people were invariably disproportionately targeted. And, if I’m not mistaken, isn’t shit like that STILL a problem with black people? Getting disproportionately targeted for enforcement of laws, resulting in a disproportionately Large Number of people being turned into criminals by the system?
Seriously, this was asked and answered like an hour ago.
So the best you have is "sodomy" laws, a misdemeanor in Kansas btw, since they are the ones supposedly targeting gay people, adultery is also illegal in Kansas.
Meanwhile black people had to drink from specific water fountains
Black people could only shop at certain stores.
Black people had to ride at the back of public transportation.
Black people couldn't buy property in certain neighborhoods.
Black people couldn't be in certain towns after sundown.
Black people were discriminated in being hired for jobs.
Black people could be arrested for not having a job.
But Gay people have SoDoMy LaWz, goodnight everybody.
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August 4, 2020 at 12:30 am
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And gay people were arrested, sent to jail, and treated as sex offenders simply for being who they were. And it’s not just a law in Kansas. Until 58 years ago, EVERY single state in the US had one. And today, those laws still stand in 68 countries. In eleven, it’s still punishable by death.
And you want to talk about violence, well, even as these laws are rendered unconstitutional, hate crimes against them are still a thing. In fact, of all the hate crimes that happen, as of 2018, 1 in 5 are motivated by sexual orientation.
Yes, black people are still targeted more, but, guess what, this isn’t supposed to be a dick-waving contest of who gets it worse.
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August 4, 2020 at 1:03 am
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Quote:Once again name a law that specifically targeted homosexuals.
Homosexuality was itself criminalized
Quote:So the best you have is "sodomy" laws, a misdemeanor in Kansas btw, since they are the ones supposedly targeting gay people, adultery is also illegal in Kansas.
Meanwhile black people had to drink from specific water fountains
Black people could only shop at certain stores.
Black people had to ride at the back of public transportation.
Black people couldn't buy property in certain neighborhoods.
Black people couldn't be in certain towns after sundown.
Black people were discriminated in being hired for jobs.
Black people could be arrested for not having a job.
But Gay people have SoDoMy LaWz, goodnight everybody.
People went to jail for sodomy laws and had there lives ruined .Yes they did target gay people specifically with them .God you are a snowflake
(August 4, 2020 at 12:30 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And gay people were arrested, sent to jail, and treated as sex offenders simply for being who they were. And it’s not just a law in Kansas. Until 58 years ago, EVERY single state in the US had one. And today, those laws still stand in 68 countries. In eleven, it’s still punishable by death.
And you want to talk about violence, well, even as these laws are rendered unconstitutional, hate crimes against them are still a thing. In fact, of all the hate crimes that happen, as of 2018, 1 in 5 are motivated by sexual orientation.
Yes, black people are still targeted more, but, guess what, this isn’t supposed to be a dick-waving contest of who gets it worse. He just wants to play victim olympics.
(August 3, 2020 at 11:33 pm)Eleven Wrote: (August 3, 2020 at 11:10 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Those aren't specific to gay people.
Were you expecting something similar to Jim Crow Laws that affected black people?
Your fault is in your thinking process, that there must be active laws specifically targeting gay people, in order for them to be, what, legally discriminated against?
The discrimination exists, and that is most important. Inequality, no matter who is affected, is what matters and needs major attention toward change.
Legislation affecting gay rights across America
Gay people aren't fully protected in America
Laws that threaten LGBTQ equality I know that subtle difference alouds him . But he wants it to be about him problem and his only .
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August 4, 2020 at 1:22 am
Once again:
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August 4, 2020 at 1:26 am
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(August 4, 2020 at 1:22 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Once again:
But he would much rather divide us up
Oh and here's a chart on sodomy laws . Note homosexuality gets it's own column.But yeah there was no targeting. In huggy land homosexuality was totally accepted and that's why so many people were open about it ......Oh wait
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law...ted_States
this is neat too
https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/lgbt-r...index.html
We have come a long way from this
http://www.opportunityinstitute.org/blog...auschwitz/
Oh and here is a list of penalties for sodomy
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy...ted_States
And this fun quote from it
Quote:Ethics scholar Richard Weinmeyer writes:[8]
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During the 1950s, McCarthyism resulted in state- and nationwide witch hunts of male "homosexuals" in which the acts of oral and anal sex between consenting adult men were [treated the same as] child molestation.
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