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Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 22, 2020 at 5:28 pm
(July 22, 2020 at 1:16 pm)Porcupine Wrote: Is time something that can be wasted?

Indeed. We have limited time in this life, so why waste it ?
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#52
RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 22, 2020 at 5:42 pm
(July 22, 2020 at 5:28 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 22, 2020 at 1:16 pm)Porcupine Wrote: Is time something that can be wasted?

Indeed. We have limited time in this life, so why waste it ?

How can it be wasted?

If there is an afterlife .... is it really a life wholly after this one or is it, rather, a continuation of this life in another form?
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm
(July 22, 2020 at 5:42 pm)Porcupine Wrote:
(July 22, 2020 at 5:28 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Indeed. We have limited time in this life, so why waste it ?

How can it be wasted?

If there is an afterlife .... is it really a life wholly after this one or is it, rather, a continuation of this life in another form?

According to my faith, it's a continuation of this one, where people rise from the graves; then gets judged by God for their deeds in this life; then depending on each one's deeds they will either go to heaven or to hell.
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 22, 2020 at 6:22 pm
(July 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 22, 2020 at 5:42 pm)Porcupine Wrote: How can it be wasted?

If there is an afterlife .... is it really a life wholly after this one or is it, rather, a continuation of this life in another form?

According to my faith, it's a continuation of this one, where people rise from the graves; then gets judged by God for their deeds in this life; then depending on each one's deeds they will either go to heaven or to hell.

If God is omniscient, why does he have to judge? He already knows what everyone’s deeds were. In fact, he has ALWAYS known. He knew before those deeds were committed. One could even make the case that, from the moment of creation, God has known who is and isn’t going to Hell. The inescapable conclusion is that God knowing creates people who are pre-damned.

That’s kind of shitty of him.

Boru
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 22, 2020 at 9:07 pm
Well, Winter...get back to us when the world devolves into some mad max shit. Dead rising from their graves, people murdering people for cups of water, etc.

Until then...............................................................
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 23, 2020 at 12:49 am (This post was last modified: July 23, 2020 at 1:02 am by WinterHold.)
(July 22, 2020 at 6:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 22, 2020 at 6:06 pm)WinterHold Wrote: According to my faith, it's a continuation of this one, where people rise from the graves; then gets judged by God for their deeds in this life; then depending on each one's deeds they will either go to heaven or to hell.

If God is omniscient, why does he have to judge? He already knows what everyone’s deeds were. In fact, he has ALWAYS known. He knew before those deeds were committed. One could even make the case that, from the moment of creation, God has known who is and isn’t going to Hell. The inescapable conclusion is that God knowing creates people who are pre-damned.

That’s kind of shitty of him.

Boru

If we didn't execute his knowledge through living it; then he isn't fair and and thus not worthy of worship.
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 23, 2020 at 2:12 am
until then......................
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 23, 2020 at 2:41 am
Quote:If we didn't execute his knowledge through living it; then he isn't fair and and thus not worthy of worship

This is exactly what a perfectly executed indoctrination does to a human mind.
We draw as many dots as necessary from any conceivable scenario until we reach the desired conclusion.

The Koran is mutually exclusive with "fairness and reason" for one simple reason. Gods are created to control, not to negotiate.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 23, 2020 at 2:44 am (This post was last modified: July 23, 2020 at 2:45 am by Porcupine.)
It seems to me that if there really were an all-powerful Male creator God of the silly anthropomorphic kind ... it's less likely that such a God is any particular God in one of those religions---Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah---and more likely that those are just his different incarnations.

IOW, as silly as God is, if he did exist why would he stick to communicating through only one religion?
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RE: Are miracles evidence of the existence of God?
July 23, 2020 at 3:49 pm
(July 23, 2020 at 12:49 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 22, 2020 at 6:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If God is omniscient, why does he have to judge? He already knows what everyone’s deeds were. In fact, he has ALWAYS known. He knew before those deeds were committed. One could even make the case that, from the moment of creation, God has known who is and isn’t going to Hell. The inescapable conclusion is that God knowing creates people who are pre-damned.

That’s kind of shitty of him.

Boru

If we didn't  execute his knowledge through living it; then he isn't fair and and thus not worthy of worship.

That's kind of a non-response.

Boru
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