Imminent chances of societal collapse is sky high

[Figbash]

Nah. Humans are basically cockroaches. There will always be survivors. Most likely the vastly wealthy and politicians with fallout shelters stocked with years of provisions.

Really makes you feel better, huh?

[Rhizomorph13]

Nah. Humans are basically cockroaches. There will always be survivors. Most likely the vastly wealthy and politicians with fallout shelters stocked with years of provisions.

Really makes you feel better, huh?

Yes, I'm glad that our trillions of miss-allocated tax dollars are being put to work!

[The Grand Nudger]

The trouble, at least with respect to their model, is that we aren't basically cockroaches. We don't act the way that their collapse scenario necessitates.

[Brian37]

The dinosaurs had their fun, then they were eliminated. Only a matter of time for us.

Their fun lasted >170,000,000 years   Our fun is of <170,000 Years so far.

“Societal collapse“ is a evocatively vague term.  There is a large number of degrees of “Collapse”.  “Societal Collapse” of some notable degrees happened many times during just the last century, on several instances to nations and societies we would consider advanced, yet technological society is still here.

There is yet a vast, essentially unbridgeable by our powers, chasm between the uttermost “societal collapse”, and extinction of the human species.

So don’t get carried away with glee at prospect of your own hoped for demise.   Your chance of bringing too many others down is slim.

There is a huge difference between old mythological claims of our species demise, and a little over 100 years of climate science that says humans need to get our act together. And we do, sooner the better.

[The Grand Nudger]

I think that you might be surprised at how many of the notions of our species demise are positively based on those mythological claims, things like the depravity of man, for example.

[Sal]

One of the most remarkable skills of humans is their ability to adapt and innovate. As such, you might expect that technology and science will develop solutions to this problem. However, the report argues that the “consumption of the natural resources, in particular the forests, is in competition with our technological level.” In other words, the more technology progresses, the more we are likely to destroy forests unless a profound paradigm shift occurs.

This is basically the technocratic approach contrasted with collective human action.

I'm not as optimistic as to think that the governments of the world will get their act together and reshape their current fossil fuel energy dependent economies into green renewable energy economies & nuclear-based energy. It won't be until climate change has become so bad that its effects has caused coastal cities to submerge and more than 2 billion people displaced away from the equator; then the governments of the world will be like "oh shit, guess we should have done something 50 years ago."

[The Grand Nudger]

The most successful examples of environmental action in the 20th century were bottom up, not top down. If we're waiting for a savior to come down from on high...it might be a few thousand years...

[Anomalocaris]

Suggested by the modelling

If too much of the world's wealth doesn't pull it's head out of its ass, this wont be just a "theory". Humans simply cannot keep putting speeding up consumption of resources and polluting in the process and not expect problems. 

I think it is good that we have cell phones and not rotary phones. I am glad I can pm someone on social media, instead of writing a letter and handing it over to the Pony Express. But the global market needs to seriously stop making things that are cheap and disposable and pollute. That only shortens our species ride, and in the process, the harder resources are to obtain, the more expensive they get, and the more conflict they create in competing for them.

Humans need to get over politics, religion, political and economic ideology. Ultimately resources are what all humans need. And unless we slow down and plan and think, our species will shorten our ride.

Brian has no use for facts in formulating the righteous solution to big problems.   He certainly has no use for the fact that his righteous solutions consist of 100% hot air and 0%, huh, solution.

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Nah. Humans are basically cockroaches. There will always be survivors. Most likely the vastly wealthy and politicians with fallout shelters stocked with years of provisions.

Really makes you feel better, huh?

Yeah, wait until Donald trump runs out of provision and heaven forbid, have to walk down a shallow ramp to pick up editable berries.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm ready for a collapse. I've read Lucifer's Hammer, The Stand, The Earth Abides, etc. No surprises.