(August 22, 2021 at 6:55 am)Helios Wrote:(Bold) is correct. But that's a special privilege only God is allowed to have. And there is a valid reason God wouldn't make human beings that way. If you had children, and you were raising them, you wouldn't just give them all the same privileges you have, as a parent, would you? Of course not.Quote:Free will doesn't mean what most people think it means. Nobody (not even God) has absolutely unlimited free will. That's not how it works. You only have the kind of free will that allows you to fulfill your True Will, which varies from individual to individual. Unlike humans', God's True Will is always good.......He only ever does good things. Humans are different. Humans are allowed to do good and evil things.There is no contradiction between only being able to do good and having free will and no valid reason a god would not make human beings that way.
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If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
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Quote:(Bold) is correct. But that's a special privilege only God is allowed to have. And there is a valid reason God wouldn't make human beings that way. If you had children, and you were raising them, you wouldn't just give them all the same privileges you have, as a parent, would you? Of course not.That is not a valid reason nor a good analogy
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
God doesn't need to lie, (s)he has plenty of minions to do it on his/her behalf.
(August 22, 2021 at 8:50 am)Helios Wrote:We are all God's children, in a continual process of learning to rely on Him. Life is easier, and more enjoyable, when we rely on God. I turned my back on Catholicism many years ago, but recently started praying again, after going through Hell, and my life has been steadily improving. I'm still going through Hell, but I'm not as paranoid now, and things have been working out for me. I bought a lot of cans of Chef Boyardee last night, and just this morning, they were delivered to my house. I plan on donating some of them to a food shelter.Quote:(Bold) is correct. But that's a special privilege only God is allowed to have. And there is a valid reason God wouldn't make human beings that way. If you had children, and you were raising them, you wouldn't just give them all the same privileges you have, as a parent, would you? Of course not.That is not a valid reason nor a good analogy
None of that has anything to do with anything
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM (August 22, 2021 at 8:47 am)Ahriman Wrote:(August 22, 2021 at 6:55 am)Helios Wrote: There is no contradiction between only being able to do good and having free will and no valid reason a god would not make human beings that way.(Bold) is correct. But that's a special privilege only God is allowed to have. And there is a valid reason God wouldn't make human beings that way. If you had children, and you were raising them, you wouldn't just give them all the same privileges you have, as a parent, would you? Of course not. What the fuck would you know about kids?!? Besides, that terminally imaginary friend of yours, according to your own myths and bullshit, will never grant the lesser beings with the same privileges it allegedly has. Kids grow up and attain all the privileges of their parents.
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(August 22, 2021 at 1:18 am)Ahriman Wrote:Quote:Evidence?It's common sense. You don't think, that after this life on Earth, with all of its experiences, you're going to just disappear, do you? No......your soul/spirit/energy, whatever, is going to continue, in some form or another. The only you continue to exist after death is thru the memory of others. I expect to exist at the most for two generations.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
(August 22, 2021 at 10:12 am)brewer Wrote:Even if the memory of who you were, lives on in the memory of others, you wouldn't "exist" through them.(August 22, 2021 at 1:18 am)Ahriman Wrote: It's common sense. You don't think, that after this life on Earth, with all of its experiences, you're going to just disappear, do you? No......your soul/spirit/energy, whatever, is going to continue, in some form or another. RE: If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything?
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(August 22, 2021 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote:(August 22, 2021 at 8:50 am)Helios Wrote: That is not a valid reason nor a good analogyWe are all God's children, in a continual process of learning to rely on Him. Life is easier, and more enjoyable, when we rely on God. I turned my back on Catholicism many years ago, but recently started praying again, after going through Hell, and my life has been steadily improving. I'm still going through Hell, but I'm not as paranoid now, and things have been working out for me. I bought a lot of cans of Chef Boyardee last night, and just this morning, they were delivered to my house. I plan on donating some of them to a food shelter. Trump had tons of failed claims, like airlines, casinos, steak companies, fake universities. Naked assertions make for good entertainment, but they suck as far as reality. "We are all God's Children" Really, ok, fine, which one? What lesson did the 6 million Jews who died from WW2 and Hitler learn? What did the 3,000 dead from 9/11/01 learn? (August 22, 2021 at 9:03 am)Ahriman Wrote: We are all God's children, in a continual process of learning to rely on Him. Life is easier, and more enjoyable, when we rely on God. I turned my back on Catholicism many years ago, but recently started praying again, after going through Hell, and my life has been steadily improving. I'm still going through Hell, but I'm not as paranoid now, and things have been working out for me. I bought a lot of cans of Chef Boyardee last night, and just this morning, they were delivered to my house. I plan on donating some of them to a food shelter. If you need god, no problem, it obviously fills a void that you can't fill by yourself. But stop telling us about it. I find it unnecessary and a sign of weakness. But something tells me you can't help yourself, it's part of the indoctrination.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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