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J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
#41
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
J K Rowlings is the most famous writer on the planet?

Yeah. Right.

If you're 12 years old.



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#42
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
(September 28, 2020 at 10:31 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: J K Rowlings is the most famous writer on the planet?

Yeah. Right.

If you're 12 years old.



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Sure, if you want to read a ten page description of a chair.

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#43
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
(September 28, 2020 at 8:22 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(August 30, 2020 at 10:02 am)Lawz Wrote: I think gender dysphoria is caused by sexist gender role stereotypes and that transsexualism is always a mistake and also perpetuates and strengthens those sexist gender role stereotypes. I hold no ill will toward any trans person whatsoever and merely disapprove of the "sin," not the "sinner" who has been mislead and let down by society in general, resulting in trans identity type errors. Transphobia is prejudice against trans PEOPLE and so that ain't me, nor fabulous lady JK Rowling. 2c

You can "armchair" the reason for gender dysphoria all you want, but your opinion carries as much weight as any random person.

Sure, Rowling claims to not support discrimination against trans people.  But, her actions are causing just that to happen.  She has convinced herself that being trans isn't a real thing, and the trans community and doctors are taking vulnerable children and convincing them that they are trans.

Now, I don't know how a 12 year-old knows they are trans.  It's a damn confusing time sexually, and there are all sorts of stereotypes around that they may be seeing they don't fit into.  But I'm not a researcher or doctor, nor have I known any trans people in their teens.  And, puberty delay drugs can have dangers, but they are at least reversible.  Not exactly some crime.

I think Rowlings is just plain wrong, and her comments are harmful.  If she was a random person, her views wouldn't matter.  But, she is the most famous writer on the planet, and looked up to by youth who read her books.  Her comments matter!  In her mind, she means well, but she is shit at figuring out what is (anti trans) activism and what is medical science.

Thanks for bumping my earlier post to the top of this thread. Indeed, it rocks. As to the "substance" of your reply, I regret to inform you that I am...unwilling...to engage with it at the moment due to....er...having previously shredded this issue to pieces using data and science and so being...er....reluctant to go down that LENGTHY course again on this latest incarnation of a/my beloved obscure internet forum. bws
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RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
You literaly can't be mistaken about how you feel, it's not a cognitive proposition that can be true or false. There's no amount of scientific data that can demonstrate that trans identities are a mistake, even if it were true that they are created in some sense by sexist gender role stereotypes (which I think is at least worth noting).

Category error.

Rowling may as well screech about how we're turning the frogs gay, while she's at it. She's convinced that trans people are harming women, somehow, and that they are created by a nefarious medical plot. Straight up loon shit.
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RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
Oh dear some famous person expressed a non-approved opinion.

Such heresy must be punished!
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#46
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
Expressed a factually incorrect, harmful and abhorrent opinion. Being non approved is the least of any opinions worries. Guess what Woody Harrelson said today? No clue? Yeah, me neither - approved or otherwise.

We might want to be careful when we elevate batshit to another opinion while tearing down anything else -as- another opinion.
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#47
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
Can you be specific about which parts are incorrect, abhorrent and/or harmful? I'm not seeing it.
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#48
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
Quote:I think gender dysphoria is caused by sexist gender role stereotypes and that transsexualism is always a mistake and also perpetuates and strengthens those sexist gender role stereotypes. I hold no ill will toward any trans person whatsoever and merely disapprove of the "sin," not the "sinner" who has been mislead and let down by society in general, resulting in trans identity type errors. Transphobia is prejudice against trans PEOPLE and so that ain't me, nor fabulous lady JK Rowling. 2c
Then your thoughts are ignorant drivel that has no basis in fact . And the sin not sinner is the same nonsensical crap right wing christian hide behind to  . It's pathetic when they do it's even more so when some who knows better does it . And no denying trans identity or denying its legitimacy or defining it as a mental illness IS TRANSPHOBIC. End of story .And Rowling's is a Transphobe she is demonizing trans people in her books .


Quote:Thanks for bumping my earlier post to the top of this thread. Indeed, it rocks. As to the "substance" of your reply, I regret to inform you that I am...unwilling...to engage with it at the moment due to....er...having previously shredded this issue to pieces using data and science and so being...er....reluctant to go down that LENGTHY course again on this latest incarnation of a/my beloved obscure internet forum. bws
You shredded nothing . You presented your ignorant unfounded opinions that no basis in reality .Then committed to the same bag of tricks as the Christian right to cover your ass . Hilarious

(September 29, 2020 at 1:43 pm)Rank Stranger Wrote: Oh dear some famous person expressed a non-approved opinion.

Such heresy must be punished!
If by non approved you mean awful then yes

(September 29, 2020 at 3:05 pm)Rank Stranger Wrote: Can you be specific about which parts are incorrect, abhorrent and/or harmful?  I'm not seeing it.
Then you need your eyes checked
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#49
RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
(August 31, 2020 at 8:15 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 31, 2020 at 7:44 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: "Rowling", not "Simmons"? Damn, gotta re-read the whole thread.  Doh

If only Simmons would take better care of himself.




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RE: J.K. Rowling had to return civil rights award
(September 29, 2020 at 3:12 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(September 29, 2020 at 3:05 pm)Rank Stranger Wrote: Can you be specific about which parts are incorrect, abhorrent and/or harmful?  I'm not seeing it.
Then you need your eyes checked

Sorry I'm not woke enough to fully grasp such obvious injustice... help a brother out.

Is it the notion that a lot of trans kids are going to regret their transitions?  I guess people could argue about how common that is, or how important it is... but it's well documented that some people do regret their transitions.  Is it somehow evil to even bring up the subject?  Or am I missing something?

Or that cis-women are not quite the same as trans-women?  Again... pretty easy to prove in the vast majority of cases.  Surely you wouldn't deny that some very common and important life experiences are pretty much exclusive to humans with a functioning female reproductive system?  Is it somehow sinful to say so out loud?

 
Did I miss some memo from the virtue-signaling language-police?
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