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BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
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RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Hundreds of activists repeated so, I have told everyone here about the brutality of the Saudi regime...
...and everybody knew it beforehand

You are praising yourself for telling everyone that 2+2=4
Yeah, thats what you look like.



(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But isn't it the time to send Trump to the nearest prison for life?
Is that a rhetorical question?
Why for life?

(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Isn't it the time to put this traitor where he belongs? he's not just a traitor, but a murderer and rapist, he proudly says it.
Again, is this a rhetorical question? Congress has alredy tired to remove him from office (and most probably some lawsuits would have followed), but failed to do so. Unfortunately Trump has surrounded himself with people who are loyal to him, not to their country. Unfortunately he has put many of them in positions to support him and avoid him being persecuted for his crimes.
No need to tell people on this forum, since they already know.

By the way: Whom has he murdered? Whom has he claimed to have murdered?
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RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
(September 13, 2020 at 1:28 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Hundreds of activists repeated so, I have told everyone here about the brutality of the Saudi regime...
...and everybody knew it beforehand

You are praising yourself for telling everyone that 2+2=4
Yeah, thats what you look like.



(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But isn't it the time to send Trump to the nearest prison for life?
Is that a rhetorical question?
Why for life?

(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Isn't it the time to put this traitor where he belongs? he's not just a traitor, but a murderer and rapist, he proudly says it.
Again, is this a rhetorical question? Congress has alredy tired to remove him from office (and most probably some lawsuits would have followed), but failed to do so. Unfortunately Trump has surrounded himself with people who are loyal to him, not to their country. Unfortunately he has put many of them in positions to support him and avoid him being persecuted for his crimes.
No need to tell people on this forum, since they already know.

By the way: Whom has he murdered? Whom has he claimed to have murdered?

Remember 2 years ago? when Kashoggi got murdered with "MBS's" fingerprints were all around the crime scene?

I called him out on his murder but you stood by MBS's and Trump's side -quoting your own words exactly-:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-56810-p...pid1827394

Quote:Deesse23

I am not saying it didnt happen, i am saying we dont have neither evidence nor credible witnesses, but you, you pretend its carved in stone already.
You are hysterical, but not that this would big news to anyone who is here even as short as me.

You called me hysterical, you defended a crime even though it happened right before your eyes, recordings exist for Kashoggi entering and never leaving the consulate, now after 2 years it is finally admitted by Trump himself that he lied and defended the prince.

Until when are you going to defend this tyrant? you are repeating the same pattern of behavior over and over, even when the evidence is right before your eyes you repeat the same over and over.

He manipulated you like his puppet and turned you into a voice of his. Trump and MBS don't need to shut me up and shut others like me directly because they have manipulated fools like you to do the job for them.

But Trump threw you and your service to him -by attacking me 2 years ago- in the garbage; used you as a used napkin then threw you away. So aren't you going to do something about that?
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RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
(September 13, 2020 at 3:23 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 13, 2020 at 1:28 am)Deesse23 Wrote: ...and everybody knew it beforehand

You are praising yourself for telling everyone that 2+2=4
Yeah, thats what you look like.



Is that a rhetorical question?
Why for life?

Again, is this a rhetorical question? Congress has alredy tired to remove him from office (and most probably some lawsuits would have followed), but failed to do so. Unfortunately Trump has surrounded himself with people who are loyal to him, not to their country. Unfortunately he has put many of them in positions to support him and avoid him being persecuted for his crimes.
No need to tell people on this forum, since they already know.

By the way: Whom has he murdered? Whom has he claimed to have murdered?

Remember 2 years ago? when Kashoggi got murdered with "MBS's" fingerprints were all around the crime scene?

I called him out on his murder but you stood by MBS's and Trump's side -quoting your own words exactly-:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-56810-p...pid1827394

Quote:Deesse23

I am not saying it didnt happen, i am saying we dont have neither evidence nor credible witnesses, but you, you pretend its carved in stone already.
You are hysterical, but not that this would big news to anyone who is here even as short as me.

You called me hysterical, you defended a crime even though it happened right before your eyes, recordings exist for Kashoggi entering and never leaving the consulate, now after 2 years it is finally admitted by Trump himself that he lied and defended the prince.

Until when are you going to defend this tyrant? you are repeating the same pattern of behavior over and over, even when the evidence is right before your eyes you repeat the same over and over.

He manipulated you like his puppet and turned you into a voice of his. Trump and MBS don't need to shut me up and shut others like me directly because they have manipulated fools like you to do the job for them.

But Trump threw you and your service to him -by attacking me 2 years ago- in the garbage; used you as a used napkin then threw you away. So aren't you going to do something about that?
Who did Trump murder, and whom did he claim to murder by the way?

Liar, i never defended a crime! You owe me an apology too now. And yes, you are hysterical. As evidenced when you claimed to know the details of Kashoggis murder when not sufficient evidence was out*, as evidenced by your hysterical BREAKING bullshit right now, telling people what they alread know in the meantime, namely that:
Kashoggi was muredered by Saudi Arabia/MBS
Saudi Arabian government is evil
Trump and everbody else knows the above and he admits to knowing now
Trump is a criminal who needs to be put on trial

Nothing of that is news in any way today, to anyone. Stop pretending it is.

I never denied that Kashoggi was murdered by Saudi Arabian government. Please read my quote** "I am not saying it didnt happen, i am saying we dont have neither evidence nor credible witnesses". Can you read? Do you english?I expressed my scepticism when we didnt have the evidence we have now. Remember? Time has passed, and i have changed my mind, based on evidence. You should try the same. You on the other hand had made up your mind, before sufficient evidence was in.

You will also not find me denying that the Saudi Regime is evil. That is a given for decades.

So, no, you pretending as if the Saudi Regime being evil, Kashoggi being murdered and everyone knowing these facts would be BREAKING news is silly. Everbody already knows by now.


*Other than having no records of Kashoggi leaving the embassy. That in itself is not evidence for the guilt of a Saudi prince. I dont know what your standards of evidence are, but mine werent met at that time. When details came out about how he was tortured, killed and dismembered, that was the point for me to have sufficient evidence
** How stupid does one have to be to dig out a statement of an opponent in a discusison, and that quote confirms the opponents point of view? DohBut thanks for doing my homework.
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#14
RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
Anything with which Winter doesn’t agree is a lie.

Withholding judgement until more evidence is in means you support terrorists and murderers.

People who do things Winter doesn’t like should either be killed or jailed for life, irrespective of reasons he isn’t aware of.

All Muslims are 100% immune from guilt by association. The same is not true of non-Muslims.

Here endeth the lesson.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
(September 12, 2020 at 8:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:The Saudi government is the main producer of Jihadists and 9/11 was their sin, not the sin of the people who live there.

Your level of hypocrisy is truly staggering.

Boru

Hypocrisy is the base that Winter's everything stands on.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
(September 12, 2020 at 3:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(September 12, 2020 at 2:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Trump finally admitted that he protected the Saudi crown prince MBS after he killed the journalist Kashoggi:



https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolen...cc89f05c9b




https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/donald-t...rt-2294197

Since day one, I repeated that MBS is a murderer on this forum -and I wasn't lying-:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-56810.html


Hundreds of activists repeated so, I have told everyone here about the brutality of the Saudi regime, and that without crooks like Trump it won't remain for a single day. But for Trump to come out and admit such barbarity like it's okay is telling me that America just moved into a new era; either Americans liked it or not. Trump must be taken out to jail for life.

But isn't it the time to send Trump to the nearest prison for life?
Isn't it the time to put this traitor where he belongs? he's not just a traitor, but a murderer and rapist, he proudly says it.

Yes, and the orange fuckface also publicly sucked up to a Communist KGB asshole named PUTIN. And he also sucked up to Kim Jong Un in public.

I am not sure what you want us to do here? This unfortunately is the system we are fortunately and unfortunately stuck with. If I had my way Trump would most certainly be in prison. But just like you rail against your theocracy in Saudi Arabia, you are also stuck with what you live under.

Trump in reality, if he loses, in November is going to face lots of legal trouble, at least with lawsuits which are financial. I want to see that fucker lose his shirt and end up homeless. But, knowing our system, and unfortunately knowing he isn't worth a civil war, the likelihood of Trump spending a day in prison is slim. Just like the likelihood of your royal family spending a day in prison is unlikely. 

BUT at least in the west, something we have, that you don't are checks on power. The good thing about Trump, is he ego can't handle a loss in November. I predict right now, if he loses, he will be dead within two years. NOT because someone poisoned him or shoots him. But because he cant stand people not liking him blindly. I think his own ego if he loses will ruin his health. I also predict, that if he loses that Melania  will divorce him. 

I agree the fucker deserves jail time. But, if he loses on November 3rd, watch out, the next day that fucker will try to start WW3 to act as a distraction.

Trump, the Sauds, Kim and Putin all worth a civil war; because they are killers and murderers that play with lives; all of them caused a lot of misery and all of them will burn us all before they see power stripped out from them.

I agree too that he might start WW3 if he lost. Sadly there are many criminals that follow his way and follow his lead. Now the truth became more clear: this maniac is ready to support Putin and MBS if the price was right. That kind of criminals worth a civil war indeed, and just like domino pieces all his allies will witness civil wars that hopefully brings this darkness to an end.
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RE: BREAKING: Trump Boasted Of Saving Saudi Prince Over Jamal Khashoggi Killing
(September 13, 2020 at 3:23 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 13, 2020 at 1:28 am)Deesse23 Wrote: ...and everybody knew it beforehand

You are praising yourself for telling everyone that 2+2=4
Yeah, thats what you look like.



Is that a rhetorical question?
Why for life?

Again, is this a rhetorical question? Congress has alredy tired to remove him from office (and most probably some lawsuits would have followed), but failed to do so. Unfortunately Trump has surrounded himself with people who are loyal to him, not to their country. Unfortunately he has put many of them in positions to support him and avoid him being persecuted for his crimes.
No need to tell people on this forum, since they already know.

By the way: Whom has he murdered? Whom has he claimed to have murdered?

Remember 2 years ago? when Kashoggi got murdered with "MBS's" fingerprints were all around the crime scene?

I called him out on his murder but you stood by MBS's and Trump's side -quoting your own words exactly-:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-56810-p...pid1827394

Quote:Deesse23

I am not saying it didnt happen, i am saying we dont have neither evidence nor credible witnesses, but you, you pretend its carved in stone already.
You are hysterical, but not that this would big news to anyone who is here even as short as me.

OK, just stop and look at yourself.

I am certain that Deesse needs no help from me defending him/herself, so just look at yourself.
Deesse simply pointed out that we had zero evidence of what exactly DID happen at that time that could prove anything. Nobody did, not even YOU. All we knew for certain was that he was missing and where he was last seen and that was it. Over time, information emerged which slowly made events clear.

What you are doing is retrospectively applying later knowledge to an earlier situation when such knowledge and evidence simply was not available. Absent solid evidence, no conclusion can be drawn. Not a single one. Yet you draw them anyway because you do not care about evidence.

Then you drag Trump into it. Just because.

So let me ask you...are you voting for Trump or Biden in the Nov. 3rd election. Your honest answer is neither because you are not an American, do not live in America and have no vote to cast. Guess what? I am in the same position. All of your critics are not necessarily Americans.

So give it up. You cannot paint everyone here who disagrees with you as some sort of idiotic Trump afficionado and voter. Personally, Trump can go die in a fire while holding hands with MBS for all I care about them. It matters not a whit to me. I would not start the fire, but I wouldn't be getting off my butt to help them either. They created this stupid scenario. It is up to them to deal with the consequences, not me.

(September 13, 2020 at 3:23 am)WinterHold Wrote: You called me hysterical, you defended a crime even though it happened right before your eyes, recordings exist for Kashoggi entering and never leaving the consulate, now after 2 years it is finally admitted by Trump himself that he lied and defended the prince.
But that is not what Deesse stated, it is what you made up out of whole cloth AND CONTINUE TO DO. That is dishonest.

(September 13, 2020 at 3:23 am)WinterHold Wrote: Until when are you going to defend this tyrant? you are repeating the same pattern of behavior over and over, even when the evidence is right before your eyes you repeat the same over and over.
At the time of that post, there was no evidence.

(September 13, 2020 at 3:23 am)WinterHold Wrote: He manipulated you like his puppet and turned you into a voice of his. Trump and MBS don't need to shut me up and shut others like me directly because they have manipulated fools like you to do the job for them.
Still not what Deesse did and you seem to have no concept of how time works.

(September 13, 2020 at 3:23 am)WinterHold Wrote: But Trump threw you and your service to him -by attacking me 2 years ago- in the garbage; used you as a used napkin then threw you away. So aren't you going to do something about that?
Are you going to do something about MBS? Of course not.

Hypocrite.
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