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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 3:31 pm
Quote:your point has no bearing on the legal concept of culpability.
It should
Quote:the law should not be a means for satisfying impulsive senses of righteousness, especially when it so easily seem so righteous to so many to scapegoat a few for the failings of many.
It has nothing to do with righteousness. It has everything to do with the whole scenario making little sense
Quote:rather it is a means of preventing impulsive sense of righteousness from carrying the day over more consistent and systematic application of behavioral mandate.
See above
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 4:53 pm
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(September 25, 2020 at 11:55 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (September 25, 2020 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: You missed my point.
The cops shot Breonna 6 times. I don't give a shit if another cop shot also and "Endangered" the lives of other apartments. It makes no logical sense that the one cop who did not hit her, was the one charged with "Wanton endangerment".
Breonna was an innocent victim.
your point has no bearing on the legal concept of culpability.
the law should not be a means for satisfying impulsive senses of righteousness, especially when it so easily seem so righteous to so many to scapegoat a few for the failings of many.
rather it is a means of preventing impulsive sense of righteousness from carrying the day over more consistent and systematic application of behavioral mandate.
The fuck it doesn't!
"Ooops" is not a fucking excuse. ESPECIALY if you area cop. The cops who put 6 bullets into her body and killed her, cant use " I feared for my life" on a warrant based on bad intel.
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 6:03 pm
Area cops are the worst.
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 6:04 pm
(September 25, 2020 at 6:03 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Area cops are the worst.
Especially the groin area......
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 8:07 pm
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(September 25, 2020 at 4:53 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (September 25, 2020 at 11:55 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: your point has no bearing on the legal concept of culpability.
the law should not be a means for satisfying impulsive senses of righteousness, especially when it so easily seem so righteous to so many to scapegoat a few for the failings of many.
rather it is a means of preventing impulsive sense of righteousness from carrying the day over more consistent and systematic application of behavioral mandate.
The fuck it doesn't!
"Ooops" is not a fucking excuse. ESPECIALY if you area cop. The cops who put 6 bullets into her body and killed her, cant use " I feared for my life" on a warrant based on bad intel.
Why not? Because Brian said so and he also said he is the sole source of light and truth?
(September 24, 2020 at 1:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (September 24, 2020 at 11:24 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Is there enough for a case to go forward?
That the innocent shouldn’t have to die is not enough, and in principle can not be enough, to convict those who caused the death.
If the prosecutor went to the grand jury with "the innocent shouldn't have to die" they failed.
What else is there?
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 8:41 pm
Depends on whether the feds decide to do anything, which is unlikely.
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 25, 2020 at 9:07 pm
(September 25, 2020 at 8:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Depends on whether the feds decide to do anything, which is unlikely.
I mean besides notion that someone ought to be satisfyingly punished for killing an innocent person in her home, Therefore something wrong must be found with the cop who pulled the trigger, what else is there to indicate the cop did anything that is wrong?
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 26, 2020 at 7:48 am
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Either these guys can't shoot for shit, or a whole hell of alot of wanton endangerment was going on - which is perfectly redundant. They managed to light up the neighbors place and shoot breonna taylor six times, killing her, without taking down the man there were there to no knock, the man with a gun. Had they executed children, and it seems to be that the only reason they didn't is that there weren't any around - we wouldn't even be having this conversation. If what happened here is police doing their jobs in a professional manner then we need to rethink our standards, obviously.
It's not possible to believe that the state was acting in good faith in this case, and the lack of transparency in grand jury proceedings gives them the leeway to punt, which is what their mickey mouse charge and pillow money settlement is. Somehow, this is the rare exception that an indictment was sought and a grand jury convened at it didn't go to trial.
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 26, 2020 at 7:57 am
(September 25, 2020 at 9:07 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (September 25, 2020 at 8:41 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Depends on whether the feds decide to do anything, which is unlikely.
I mean besides notion that someone ought to be satisfyingly punished for killing an innocent person in her home, Therefore something wrong must be found with the cop who pulled the trigger, what else is there to indicate the cop did anything that is wrong?
I’m not an authority on US law, but if blindly firing into an occupied dwelling doesn’t qualify as ‘something wrong’, then it probably should.
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RE: Breonna killers not charged.
September 26, 2020 at 8:03 am
-and if we wanted to wash these officers of any legal culpability, which we do, - we'd just have to move it up the chain. Who sent a bunch of untrained shooters on a no knock drug raid? Let's hear what that dipshit has to say for himself. Is that a dept policy or was it his call?
The buck has to stop somewhere, we're just negotiating where we want that to be, where it will do the least damage to law enforcement and public perception. As it stands, the state is claiming that the buck stops with taylor, who may as well have shot herself.
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