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RE: God so hated the world
October 7, 2020 at 8:25 am
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If we presume the contents of magic book, we don't have any free will for god to respect in the first place.
The whole thing is a massive fuckup. Not only do we not possess this ability, if we did, it doesn't follow that preventing people from doing bad shit prevents them from freely willing™ to do bad shit. No more so than a cop who stands between some nut and his victim would or could. Threatening consequences doesn't assault our free will any more than physically preventing us from carrying out the actions it demands would.
Freedom of will is not equivalent to freedom of action. We can believe in the former, even insist that it should be - but absolutely none of that will or can speak to the latter -nor, for that matter, does any comment to the latter (or that it should -or- shouldn't be) speak to the former.
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RE: God so hated the world
October 7, 2020 at 2:04 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2020 at 2:05 pm by Peebothuhlu.)
At work.
*WARNING: Rant ahead.
So, perusing teh Yoogletubez as one does when they have some free time between chores.
I come across the usual "Diety made world so perfect in its orbit. Is sitting in 'Perfect Goldylock's zone' etc." that is such a wrong or ignorant or cherry picked over generalization that it's finally brought out the rant in me.
Such individuals either ignor the facts (Or are simply ignorant OF the facts) in relation to the millions of miles (Or use kilometers, if you prefer) variance the Earth's orbit actually has in its captive journey around Sol.
'Little' perturbations that, when other quirks add up such as axial tilt or geography or topography etc, lead to droughts of such proportions that entire civilizations have been erased.
Which brings up another thing. That 'Axial tilt'.
"But Peebs...." I hear you cry. "Autumn is such a pretty/colourful time of year." Or "The kids just love making snow-blobs/throwing the stuff."
Which is just a 'Snow-appologists' way of excusing all the deaths due to hypothermia and such.
Notice how people conveniently ignore the paradise that is Hawaii or other tropical locations?
If there were NO axial tilt then the 'Tropics' would extend far further from thd equator.
"Perfect Goldylock's zone" my non-ecludian, wibbly, tentacled fekkin' @rse.
Okay, rant complete. 
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RE: God so hated the world
October 7, 2020 at 5:55 pm
(October 7, 2020 at 2:04 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: If there were NO axial tilt then the 'Tropics' would extend far further from thd equator.
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If there were no approx. 23 degree axial tilt of Earth, relative to its orbit around the Sun, what makes you think seasons wouldn't exist? Seems to me that instead of having a change in seasons, they would be only be localized instead of also annual time-dependent. IOW, around equator there would always be summer, and further enough away from equator there would be winter (if those terms are even applicable for a planet with no axial tilt relative to its orbit around its star).
(yes I'm being pedantic)
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:10 pm
(October 3, 2020 at 8:41 am)Eleven Wrote: He hates us so much that he allows the devil to live when he has no problems allowing children to starve, be raped, and die of cancer.
That is not a loving god. That is a monster.
Why do you hate children and allow them to starve?
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:15 pm
(October 10, 2020 at 7:10 pm)runewell Wrote: (October 3, 2020 at 8:41 am)Eleven Wrote: He hates us so much that he allows the devil to live when he has no problems allowing children to starve, be raped, and die of cancer.
That is not a loving god. That is a monster.
Why do you hate children and allow them to starve?
What a stupid question.
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:18 pm
Quote:Why do you hate children and allow them to starve?
I don't hate children and if a had the power to feed every child on earth or prevent them all from starving i would not allow it .
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:19 pm
To be fair BSB IV, stupid is the only thing runewell does well.
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:25 pm
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(October 10, 2020 at 7:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 10, 2020 at 7:10 pm)runewell Wrote: Why do you hate children and allow them to starve?
What a stupid question.
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Why don't you either answer the stupid question or let us know why you are so quick to avoid it?
(October 10, 2020 at 7:18 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Quote:Why do you hate children and allow them to starve?
I don't hate children and if a had the power to feed every child on earth or prevent them all from starving i would not allow it .
Of course you don't have the resources to feed every child on earth - but surely you could do more than you are now - so why are you allowing them to starve? Do you enjoy watching them starve?
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:32 pm
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runewell, it's painfully clear that your .00000125 watt bulb would not be able to handle an explanation for anything.
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RE: God so hated the world
October 10, 2020 at 7:36 pm
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Quote:Of course you don't have the resources to feed every child on earth - but surely you could do more than you are now - so why are you allowing them to starve? Do you enjoy watching them starve?
A god has such resources and chooses not too . So he must enjoy watching it . I on the other hand do what i feel i can with my limited resources. So this sad attempt as shifting to avoid the question fails .
Quote:Why don't you either answer the stupid question or let us know why you are so quick to avoid it?
He didn't avoid it . He dismissed it because it's so obviously flawed .
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