God so hated the world

[Greatest I am]

He hated his human creations so much that he drowned them all, thinking only one family was worthy of a second go via incest.

He hated us so much, that he preferred joining forces with the devil to torture poor Job.

He hates us so much that he allows the devil to live when he has no problems allowing children to starve, be raped, and die of cancer.

That is not a loving god. That is a monster.

better read genesis again sport. it says neiphiem roamed the earth and they brought a great evil of which the world has never seen before nor since. they flood was sent to kill them, and their worshipers. everyone else was saved by the ark.

what does what god allowed to happen to job have to do with the rest of us? plus God never said hurt job. in fact he put limits on what satan could do to job. Satan could have bought job out. gave him riches and women made him a rock star. satan's nature would not allow it. satan wanted to destroy god limited that.

this is not God's world. this world belongs to satan these bodies belong to satan. why should god interfere with any of us? remember the open to the book of Job? God asks satan what he was up to where had he been? what was satan's reply? did he say cooking souls in hell? no he was wandering the earth too and fro.. this world in satan's kingdom. not hell. when satan goes to hell it is for ever lasting torment.

a loving God provides a way out satan's mess for those who want out. not all want out or away from this master satan.

The Nephelim are also called the offspring of the sons of god.

Why did Yahweh allow his sons to use the Earth as a brothel and then have to murder his own grand children?

As to Job, read Job 2;3 where Yahweh admits to Satan moving him to do evil to Job without a just cause.

Yahweh admits to being a sinner, just as we are, given that we are created in that genocidal bastards image.

I think it great that Christians generally have better morals than Yahweh.

Are yours? Would you kill or cure if you had Yahweh's power to either kill or cure?

Regards
DL

[Drich]

better read genesis again sport. it says neiphiem roamed the earth and they brought a great evil of which the world has never seen before nor since. they flood was sent to kill them, and their worshipers. everyone else was saved by the ark.

what does what god allowed to happen to job have to do with the rest of us? plus God never said hurt job. in fact he put limits on what satan could do to job. Satan could have bought job out. gave him riches and women made him a rock star. satan's nature would not allow it. satan wanted to destroy god limited that.

this is not God's world. this world belongs to satan these bodies belong to satan. why should god interfere with any of us? remember the open to the book of Job? God asks satan what he was up to where had he been? what was satan's reply? did he say cooking souls in hell? no he was wandering the earth too and fro.. this world in satan's kingdom. not hell. when satan goes to hell it is for ever lasting torment.

a loving God provides a way out satan's mess for those who want out. not all want out or away from this master satan.

The Nephelim are also called the offspring of the sons of god.

Why did Yahweh allow his sons to use the Earth as a brothel and then have to murder his own grand children?

As to Job, read Job 2;3 where Yahweh admits to Satan moving him to do evil to Job without a just cause.

Yahweh admits to being a sinner, just as we are, given that we are created in that genocidal bastards image.

I think it great that Christians generally have better morals than Yahweh.

Are yours? Would you kill or cure if you had Yahweh's power to either kill or cure?

Regards
DL

god here is used as a gerneic term. like thor is a god. perhaps this is where we get the idea of demi gods.

the earth was given to us. we promptly turned it over to satan. to reclaim the earth is to wipe everything out and start over.. 

the bit on job maybe keep reading in a non dead dialect of english:
 On another day the angels[a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him. 2 And the Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
4 “Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. 5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”
6 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”
7 So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.


God is saying why are you (devil) asking to strike at job he has done nothing. devil says he has done nothing because you give him everything. if you strike at him he will curse you. then God said job is in your hands.. but dont hurt him/his body or kill him.

again the point God gave job over to satan to test. satan again could have given job more/made him a rock star of sorts. rather his will was to bring hell into job's life. again all God did is remove his protection from Job and satan was allow to do anything and satan chose to do evil against job after God said he has never done anything evil!

where does God admit to sin? If i knew what god knew, and has his same purposes then i should hope i would make the same calls.

[Greatest I am]

The Nephelim are also called the offspring of the sons of god.

Why did Yahweh allow his sons to use the Earth as a brothel and then have to murder his own grand children?

As to Job, read Job 2;3 where Yahweh admits to Satan moving him to do evil to Job without a just cause.

Yahweh admits to being a sinner, just as we are, given that we are created in that genocidal bastards image.

I think it great that Christians generally have better morals than Yahweh.

Are yours? Would you kill or cure if you had Yahweh's power to either kill or cure?

Regards
DL

god here is used as a gerneic term. like thor is a god. perhaps this is where we get the idea of demi gods.

the earth was given to us. we promptly turned it over to satan. to reclaim the earth is to wipe everything out and start over.. 

the bit on job maybe keep reading in a non dead dialect of english:
 On another day the angels[a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him. 2 And the Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
4 “Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. 5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”
6 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”
7 So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.


God is saying why are you (devil) asking to strike at job he has done nothing. devil says he has done nothing because you give him everything. if you strike at him he will curse you. then God said job is in your hands.. but dont hurt him/his body or kill him.

again the point God gave job over to satan to test. satan again could have given job more/made him a rock star of sorts. rather his will was to bring hell into job's life. again all God did is remove his protection from Job and satan was allow to do anything and satan chose to do evil against job after God said he has never done anything evil!

where does God admit to sin? If i knew what god knew, and has his same purposes then i should hope i would make the same calls.

I like that you begin with a lie. It shows I am speaking to a real Christian.

Give the chapter and verse where we gi9ve our dominion to Satan.

As to Job 2;3, here is the complete quote.

ג  וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה אֶל-הַשָּׂטָן, הֲשַׂמְתָּ לִבְּךָ אֶל-עַבְדִּי אִיּוֹב--כִּי אֵין כָּמֹהוּ בָּאָרֶץ אִישׁ תָּם וְיָשָׁר יְרֵא אֱלֹהִים, וְסָר מֵרָע; וְעֹדֶנּוּ מַחֲזִיק בְּתֻמָּתוֹ, וַתְּסִיתֵנִי בוֹ לְבַלְּעוֹ חִנָּם.

3 And the LORD said unto Satan: 'Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a whole-hearted and an upright man, one that feareth God, and shunneth evil? and he still holdeth fast his integrity, although thou didst move Me against him, to destroy him without cause.'

Note that last, where Yahweh complains that Satan moved Yahweh to harm Job, as he allowed and instructed with limits, to harm without a cause.

That is Yahweh saying that the Devil made/moved him to sin.

Nice that you equate Yahweh to other imaginary gods. 

You should as all gods are man made.

You said "God gave job over to satan to test." --- after you spoke of what god knew, when being all knowing, he would have foreknowledge of the results pf all tests. You have him doing evil to learn what he already knew.

Sigh. Good apologists are so hard to find.

Regards
DL

[Smaug]

He hated us so much, that he preferred joining forces with the devil to torture poor Job.

Fun thing is that he did not 'join forces'. That would imply that devil was equal to him. He just allowed Satan to have some fun with Job.

Old Testament God really reminds me of a bored gamer playing a single-player sandbox strategy game. He can allow his 'enemies' to take an upper hand for some time to have some fun but he's always in full controll after all.

[Fake Messiah]

better read genesis again sport. it says neiphiem roamed the earth and they brought a great evil of which the world has never seen before nor since. they flood was sent to kill them, and their worshipers. everyone else was saved by the ark.

No Drich, you are the one who needs to read the Bible because Nephilims survived the flood:

Numbers 13:33
We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.

[Drich]

god here is used as a gerneic term. like thor is a god. perhaps this is where we get the idea of demi gods.

the earth was given to us. we promptly turned it over to satan. to reclaim the earth is to wipe everything out and start over.. 

the bit on job maybe keep reading in a non dead dialect of english:
 On another day the angels[a] came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him. 2 And the Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
4 “Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. 5 But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”
6 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”
7 So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.


God is saying why are you (devil) asking to strike at job he has done nothing. devil says he has done nothing because you give him everything. if you strike at him he will curse you. then God said job is in your hands.. but dont hurt him/his body or kill him.

again the point God gave job over to satan to test. satan again could have given job more/made him a rock star of sorts. rather his will was to bring hell into job's life. again all God did is remove his protection from Job and satan was allow to do anything and satan chose to do evil against job after God said he has never done anything evil!

where does God admit to sin? If i knew what god knew, and has his same purposes then i should hope i would make the same calls.

I like that you begin with a lie. It shows I am speaking to a real Christian.

Give the chapter and verse where we gi9ve our dominion to Satan.

As to Job 2;3, here is the complete quote.

ג  וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה אֶל-הַשָּׂטָן, הֲשַׂמְתָּ לִבְּךָ אֶל-עַבְדִּי אִיּוֹב--כִּי אֵין כָּמֹהוּ בָּאָרֶץ אִישׁ תָּם וְיָשָׁר יְרֵא אֱלֹהִים, וְסָר מֵרָע; וְעֹדֶנּוּ מַחֲזִיק בְּתֻמָּתוֹ, וַתְּסִיתֵנִי בוֹ לְבַלְּעוֹ חִנָּם.

3 And the LORD said unto Satan: 'Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a whole-hearted and an upright man, one that feareth God, and shunneth evil? and he still holdeth fast his integrity, although thou didst move Me against him, to destroy him without cause.'

Note that last, where Yahweh complains that Satan moved Yahweh to harm Job, as he allowed and instructed with limits, to harm without a cause.

That is Yahweh saying that the Devil made/moved him to sin.

Nice that you equate Yahweh to other imaginary gods. 

You should as all gods are man made.

You said "God gave job over to satan to test." --- after you spoke of what god knew, when being all knowing, he would have foreknowledge of the results pf all tests. You have him doing evil to learn what he already knew.

Sigh. Good apologists are so hard to find.

Regards
DL

1 typical lefty.. make a baseless accusation against your opponets character and repeat without cause or evidence.

2 You reframe the discussion to where your question can not be answered. you asked show where we turned over the world to satan. there was no formal cermony. the act in the garden is all we have to show, satan rules man. romans 5:12 explains that. plus we also have the words and works of christ and the apostles:

• John 14:30
  I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me.
   
  
  
• John 12:31-33
  Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.' This He said, signifying by what death He would die.
   
  
  
• John 8:44-47
  You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."
   
  
  
• John 16:11
  of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
   
  
  
• Ephesians 2:1-3
  And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.
   
  
  
• Ephesians 6:12-13
  For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
   
  
  
• 1 Peter 5:8-10
  Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you.
   
  
  
• Revelation 12:12
  Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
  

idk if you are intentionally being obstinate or you have confused yourself with the dead dialect you chose to read from. here is a proper reading:
3 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you noticed my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him. He is a good, faithful man. He respects God and refuses to do evil. He is still faithful, even though you asked me to let you destroy, without reason, everything he has.”
4 Satan answered, “Skin for skin![b] A man will give everything he has to protect himself. 5 I swear, if you attack his flesh and bones, he will curse you to your face!”
6 So the Lord said to Satan, “All right, Job is in your hands, but you are not allowed to kill him.” 

see sport God did not sin or move against job like you misrepresented. Satan wanted him to and he did not do it, which i why Satan said if you did or would harm job he would curse you.  maybe don't always and automatically assume the opposite position

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better read genesis again sport. it says neiphiem roamed the earth and they brought a great evil of which the world has never seen before nor since. they flood was sent to kill them, and their worshipers. everyone else was saved by the ark.

No Drich, you are the one who needs to read the Bible because Nephilims survived the flood:

Numbers 13:33
We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.

did the evil (the original reason for the flood) the nephilim rained down on the earth survive? did the original nephilim survive? or did the fallen hook up again with women? or were the wives of noah's kids carriers of the gene?

[The Grand Nudger]

god here is used as a gerneic term. like thor is a god. perhaps this is where we get the idea of demi gods.

Nope.  

The idea of demigods predates the jewish myth.  As a christian, even more explicitly, you got your demigod ideas from those guys, and that's why it's in your magic book, not believed by jews.

Thor...not a demigod. King of Norway Son of Odin and a mortal woman would be a demigod. Sound familiar?

[Drich]

god here is used as a gerneic term. like thor is a god. perhaps this is where we get the idea of demi gods.

Nope.  

The idea of demigods predates the jewish myth.  As a christian, even more explicitly, you got your demigod ideas from those guys, and that's why it's in your magic book, not believed by jews.

Thor...not a demigod.  King of Norway Son of Odin and a mortal woman would be a demigod.  Sound familiar?

ah,no.. same word used to describe gods here is the word used to describe baal and other false gods through out the ot. just like we use the word god to describe the order of deity or use it to describe an individual. the word works on the same level.

[The Grand Nudger]

Who cares, I was correcting your understanding of a demigod and where we got the idea.

[Abaddon_ire]

It's fascinating that Drich appears not to have even read his own magic book.