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Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
#51
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
Ne never said it was a right.
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#52
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
(March 3, 2011 at 7:24 am)Tiberius Wrote: So tell me (because I'm interested now), do you stand up for paedophiles rights? After all, paedophiles has historically been abused in society, and paedophilia isn't considered a "choice" by medical professionals studying the field. So, would you support a bill that protected paedophiles from abuse under a discrimination act, given that paedophilia is as much of a choice as homosexuality?

Yes, and if they cannot control their urges & actually do something illegal to or with a minor they can be put in a mental hospital like any other person with a mental condition they didn't "choose" to have. Certainly you are not suggesting that it should be legal for said paedophiles to have sexual relations with a child because they didn't "choose" to be a paedophile?

"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#53
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
But it is the societal rights of each individual to experience nurturing, and what society wouldn't want that quality of nurturing to be as high as possible. To forgo the entire experience of a child of having the opportunity to have parents, because of 1 of millions of beliefs of the parental individuals is what's laughable. Especially when no other information is given as to the bountiful other aspect of nurturing that having these parents could provide. They've apparently done well with other children. The state shouldn't be giving money to homophobes, racists or Nazis, they should be giving money to parents who take care and nurture their children, which clearly was an epic fail here.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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#54
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
(March 3, 2011 at 8:37 am)theVOID Wrote: Ne never said it was a right.

Yes, yes he did.

(March 3, 2011 at 7:24 am)Tiberius Wrote: Yup, and it's a right that is being denied because of their beliefs, even though such beliefs have nothing to do with the child, and aren't going to hurt the child's health or happiness.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
(March 3, 2011 at 6:40 am)tackattack Wrote: That doesn't necessitate them being homophobic. I'm not homophobic, but I don't agree with a homosexual lifestyle and wouldn't promote it to my children,.....

According to this lot that would qualify you as a homophobe.

I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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#56
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
1. How old are the children to be adopted??
2. Sexual orientation of the children being adopted / Fostered?
3. Prior care given to the children to be adopted?
4. Developmental problems of the children to be adopted??

I guess I must have missed these issues..... grateful to be enlightened
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#57
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
(March 3, 2011 at 8:42 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: 1. How old are the children to be adopted??
2. Sexual orientation of the children being adopted / Fostered?
3. Prior care given to the children to be adopted?
4. Developmental problems of the children to be adopted??

I guess I must have missed these issues..... grateful to be enlightened

All good questions. And everyone of them could make a difference in the social worker's & judge's choice to disallow this couple from fostering. Unfortunately, we'll probably never have the answers to this part, other than perhaps age.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
(March 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Jaysyn Wrote: . ...then it's obvious that you are very, very inexperienced in matters of child rearing & welfare & your opinion on this matter is of little worth


T'was only a matter of time before someone trotted out this knumbnutted bullshit.

"If you don't have any children of your own then your opinion is worthless." is bullshit.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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#59
RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
Adrian Wrote:Yes, both racists and Nazis should be able to foster children, as long as they are looking after the children. By "this is something we shouldn't be teaching kids" you actually mean "this is something I don't think we should be teaching kids".

How could it be something we should be teaching kids? Are you suggesting that racism is a belief system that has a possibility of being right?
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RE: Christian couple told they can't adopt due to their views on homosexuality.
(March 3, 2011 at 8:58 am)Dotard Wrote:
(March 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Jaysyn Wrote: . ...then it's obvious that you are very, very inexperienced in matters of child rearing & welfare & your opinion on this matter is of little worth

T'was only a matter of time before someone trotted out this knumbnutted bullshit.

"If you don't have any children of your own then your opinion is worthless." is bullshit.

If you've never had any experience raising kids, then you've never had any experience raising kids. I'm not so sure why that is so difficult for you to understand. I guess you think that stable & functional people just happen on their own then?
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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