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Are Christians trying to turn US into a theocracy?
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RE: Are Christians trying to turn US into a theocracy?
Mike Pence will.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: Are Christians trying to turn US into a theocracy?
(October 5, 2020 at 8:04 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(October 5, 2020 at 4:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Since when have they NOT tried to turn the US into a theocracy?

Boru

The Nixon era?

I do think all evidence indicates that the Religious Right-wing, whether you want to call them theocrats, Christian Nationalists, or Dominionists (different labels for the same thing) have been working towards a Christian Fascist state since the days of Barry Goldwater, when he said "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue" in his Acceptance Speech as the 1964 Republican Presidential candidate. Since then they have grabbed that football and ran with it. During the late 1970s and early '80s they stealthily and underhandedly took over the Republican Party. And I will admit that their extremism has made me extreme in opposition to them. I have no use for those damn traitors. They are a real threat to our republic and our democratic institutions and liberties. We are going to have to pull together and take matters into our own hands.

(October 6, 2020 at 1:18 am)Nomad Wrote:
(October 5, 2020 at 4:07 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Do you think that Christians are trying to overthrow democracy and replace it with Christian theocracy or is that just overblown?

Of course, these are sometimes called Christian Nationalists because many Christians are for democracy, but then there are those like Mike Pence and Amy Coney Barrett who are considered to be corporate theocrats.

For instance, days after the November 2016 election, Jeremy Scahill wrote that Trump is “a Trojan horse for a cabal of vicious zealots who have long craved an extremist Christian theocracy, and Pence is one of its most prized warriors.”

So it's not just a small number of Christianits that want to overthrow democracy when they were able to implement the VP.

He also quoted Jeff Sharlet, author of two books on the radical religious right in saying: “The enemy, to them, is secularism. They want a God-led government. That’s the only legitimate government. So when they speak of business, they’re speaking not of something separate from God, but they’re speaking of what, in Mike Pence’s circles, would be called biblical capitalism, the idea that this economic system is God-ordained.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/15/mike...s-history/

Certain christians are, such as the slavery advocating southern baptists or the opus dei and related groups in catholic circles.  And most mainstream christian organisations wouldn't object to a theocracy, at least up until their leaderships are carted off to a KZ.

Which is the ironic thing about a US theocracy, most of its victims will be christians because either they'll not be members of the right sect or, if they are, they either won't jesus hard enough or they'll do something proscribed by the Leader.

It does not matter who you are or what you are, if you don't believe in their version of Jesus or their ideology and theology then you are considered less than dirt by them. We all have targets on our backs. If we allow them to take over there is going to be another genocide. When push comes to shove for survival, I would rather it be them (the Christian Fascists) than us (Seculars, Nones, Freethinkers, people of other faiths). America, and the whole Earth, will not progress as a society unless and until the Conservatives are removed from our governments and put in their place.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--Thomas Jefferson
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