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[Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 17, 2020 at 3:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(October 17, 2020 at 3:07 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I should also say that this is usual everyday knowledge to a Quran reader -even before 1400 years-:




Not dodging anything.
I even brought you a credible link +  a Quranic verse. It is my faith; so...I'm quite serious
If you have to resort to a link that means you can't explain it.

The link is to prove what I'm saying; in other words "proving to you that what I'm saying has a real background scientifically".

(October 17, 2020 at 5:18 am)Sal Wrote: Have you met your 'mate' yet, @WinterHold ?

I'm of the opinion that this culture that you have to have a SO to be happy is an insult to all those who are simply happy without a SO. We're all so bloody varied that there are plenty of people who are fine by their lonesome, romantically speaking, and still be a part of a Community. There does exist something called asexuality, ya know.

Asexual people are a minority, I didn't find verses in the Quran that targets them. Actually I think that it's a mental disorder inflicted by shame or hate of sex:

Quote:With regard to sexual orientation categories, asexuality may be argued as not being a meaningful category to add to the continuum, and instead argued as the lack of a sexual orientation or sexuality.[5] Other arguments propose that asexuality is the denial of one's natural sexuality, and that it is a disorder caused by shame of sexuality, anxiety or sexual abuse, sometimes basing this belief on asexuals who masturbate or occasionally engage in sexual activity simply to please a romantic partner.[5][22][24] Within the context of sexual orientation identity politics, asexuality may pragmatically fulfill the political function of a sexual orientation identity category.[27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality..._and_cause

For me personally, I didn't find my mate yet. But all I know is that I should keep searching.
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#22
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Don't force it, dude. Just let it happen naturally, I think.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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#23
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 17, 2020 at 3:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If you have to resort to a link that means you can't explain it.

The link is to prove what I'm saying; in other words "proving to you that what I'm saying has a real background scientifically".

(October 17, 2020 at 5:18 am)Sal Wrote: Have you met your 'mate' yet, @WinterHold ?

I'm of the opinion that this culture that you have to have a SO to be happy is an insult to all those who are simply happy without a SO. We're all so bloody varied that there are plenty of people who are fine by their lonesome, romantically speaking, and still be a part of a Community. There does exist something called asexuality, ya know.

Asexual people are a minority, I didn't find verses in the Quran that targets them. Actually I think that it's a mental disorder inflicted by shame or hate of sex:

Quote:With regard to sexual orientation categories, asexuality may be argued as not being a meaningful category to add to the continuum, and instead argued as the lack of a sexual orientation or sexuality.[5] Other arguments propose that asexuality is the denial of one's natural sexuality, and that it is a disorder caused by shame of sexuality, anxiety or sexual abuse, sometimes basing this belief on asexuals who masturbate or occasionally engage in sexual activity simply to please a romantic partner.[5][22][24] Within the context of sexual orientation identity politics, asexuality may pragmatically fulfill the political function of a sexual orientation identity category.[27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality..._and_cause

For me personally, I didn't find my mate yet. But all I know is that I should keep searching.

Don’t fret. I’m sure he’s out there.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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#24
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Quote:It is even proved biologically: female XX unite with male XY to produce the full human, it is only after 5 weeks do the fetus displays its gender:
Gender and sex are not the same thing and there are expectation to XX and XY and reproduction is not the defininer of either .

https://academic.oup.com/gbe/article/12/6/750/5823304



Quote:Asexual people are a minority, I didn't find verses in the Quran that targets them. Actually I think that it's a mental disorder inflicted by shame or hate of sex:
A wikipedia article is a poor source and nice selective quoting and their rarity is irrelevant it's their existence that matters .  

Quote:The suggestion that asexuality is a sexual dysfunction is controversial among the asexual community. Those who identify as asexual usually prefer it to be recognized as a sexual orientation.[4] Scholars who argue that asexuality is a sexual orientation may point to the existence of different sexual preferences.[5][7][24] They and many asexual people believe that the lack of sexual attraction is valid enough to be categorized as a sexual orientation.[46] The researchers argue that asexuals do not choose to have no sexual desire, and generally start to find out their differences in sexual behaviors around adolescence. Because of these facts coming to light, it is reasoned that asexuality is more than a behavioral choice and is not something that can be cured like a disorder.[24][47] There is also analysis on whether identifying as asexual is becoming more popular.[48]

Research on the etiology of sexual orientation when applied to asexuality has the definitional problem of sexual orientation not consistently being defined by researchers as including asexuality.[49] Sexual orientation is defined as "enduring" and resistant to change, proving to be generally impervious to interventions intended to change it,[10] and asexuality may be defined as a sexual orientation because it is enduring and consistent over time.[2] While heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality are usually, but not always, determined during the early years of preadolescent life, it is not known when asexuality is determined. "It is unclear whether these characteristics [viz., "lacking interest in or desire for sex"] are thought to be lifelong, or if they may be acquired."[11]

Some counters to this delusion of yours

https://blogs.iu.edu/kinseyinstitute/201...ientation/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/...ysfunction


Biology and sexuality is more complex then you book of goat herder fairytales could have every imagined . So "reflect" on that
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 17, 2020 at 4:11 pm)Sal Wrote: Don't force it, dude. Just let it happen naturally, I think.

I believe in such things as "soulmates"; God sends the right person for us if we deserve it.

(October 17, 2020 at 4:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The link is to prove what I'm saying; in other words "proving to you that what I'm saying has a real background scientifically".


Asexual people are a minority, I didn't find verses in the Quran that targets them. Actually I think that it's a mental disorder inflicted by shame or hate of sex:


For me personally, I didn't find my mate yet. But all I know is that I should keep searching.

Don’t fret. I’m sure he’s out there.

Boru

The OP is speaking about Male x Female relationships, if you want to speak about your personal experience with homosexuality please open another topic.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Quote:I believe in such things as "soulmates"; God sends the right person for us if we deserve it.
Then you sillier then i thought 


Quote:The OP is speaking about Male x Female relationships, if you want to speak about your personal experience with homosexuality please open another topic.
He will speak about his relationship if he wants. It's every bit as valid.
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 17, 2020 at 3:15 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: If you have to resort to a link that means you can't explain it.

The link is to prove what I'm saying; in other words "proving to you that what I'm saying has a real background scientifically".

What's your proof that a soul exists...and not from you holy book...actual scientific proof.

(October 17, 2020 at 7:38 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 17, 2020 at 4:11 pm)Sal Wrote: Don't force it, dude. Just let it happen naturally, I think.

I believe in such things as "soulmates"; God sends the right person for us if we deserve it.

That's so darned cute.  You are waiting to be good enough for some god to send you a mate....one you are good enough, that is.
                              It's like herding cats around here...feral cats, at that.                                                          
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
You'll end up a lonely man if you wait for some god to deliver you the prefect bride. If you ever do get so lucky, you won't need souls to explain why you feel the way you do about her - because you'll know her.
It's bad for the rest of the world when americans are paid so little they can only afford chocolate mined by child slaves and clothes made in overseas sweatshops. - Robyn Pennacchia
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#29
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
Well, Winterhold won't get a 'mate' sitting on his hands. He'll have to risk it and go to some sort of social gathering where he lives. That or maybe try an dating app/website.

I don't recommend Tinder.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: The tranquillity men find in women and women find in men
(October 18, 2020 at 3:07 am)Sal Wrote: Well, Winterhold won't get a 'mate' sitting on his hands. He'll have to risk it and go to some sort of social gathering where he lives. That or maybe try an dating app/website.

I don't recommend Tinder.

Read your previous comment again:

Quote:Sal said:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-61805-p...pid2004609

Don't force it, dude. Just let it happen naturally, I think.


Soulmates are found naturally, everything from God is nature itself.
All you have to do is to realize it, admit it and thank him for it.
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