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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 12:01 am
Quote:Laws 1+2 = anti-theism, pro-atheism
What the hell is "pro atheist "? And I don't have an issue with religion until it starts to interfere with society.
Quote:Law 3 = anti-materialism/dog eat dog capitalism/environmental destruction, pro-human relations/egalitarianism/sustainability
None of these need be tied to Atheism
Quote:Law 4 = pro fidelity, anti infidelity
This doesn't need to be tied to Atheism
Quote:Law 5 = anti-racism
This doesn't need to be tied to Atheism
This just seems like a really bad verison of Atheism+
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 5:01 am
I don't do fakebook so haven't read it, but.... why would I need a set of rules to be an atheist +
Or have I missed something?
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 6:11 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2020 at 6:13 am by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
To re-cap, CFA want to -
-Tell me how to speak to people
-Tell me how to interact with people
-Promote a built-in persecution fantasy
-Decide with whom I have sex and how often
-Dictate my economic activities
How is this NOT a religion? All that's left is for them to institute a programme of ringing my door bell (uninvited) to share their Good News.
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 6:20 am
(December 4, 2020 at 6:11 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: To re-cap, CFA want to -
-Tell me how to speak to people
-Tell me how to interact with people
-Promote a built-in persecution fantasy
-Decide with whom I have sex and how often
-Dictate my economic activities
How is this NOT a religion? All that's left is for them to institute a programme of ringing my door bell (uninvited) to share their Good News.
Boru
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The word religion is irrevocably coupled with "God," by my mind. The word "faith" is not. Consider your doorbell rung and thanks for the tea!
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 6:28 am
(December 4, 2020 at 6:20 am)Lawz Wrote: (December 4, 2020 at 6:11 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: To re-cap, CFA want to -
-Tell me how to speak to people
-Tell me how to interact with people
-Promote a built-in persecution fantasy
-Decide with whom I have sex and how often
-Dictate my economic activities
How is this NOT a religion? All that's left is for them to institute a programme of ringing my door bell (uninvited) to share their Good News.
Boru
I only wish I knew when you stopped beating your wife, Boru
The word religion is irrevocably coupled with "God," by my mind. The word "faith" is not. Consider your doorbell rung and thanks for the tea!
CFA is simply another one of those non-religion religions that keep cropping up.
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 6:31 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2020 at 6:32 am by Duty.)
(December 3, 2020 at 9:28 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (December 3, 2020 at 12:44 pm)Lawz Wrote: Law 4 = pro fidelity, anti infidelity
I can understand why people are pro fidelity. So if that's the main point your fourth law is after, that's understandable.
However, I'm not sure that making the rule that sexual partners have to be six weeks apart is really going to address the issue.
The default system in the US and UK these days seems to be "serial monogamy." People stay faithful to their partners as long as they feel the relationship is working for them, but when they feel it's time to change there's no great stigma involved. There is packaged pop-psychology language they can use as justification: "the relationship was no longer fulfilling my needs," etc.
And I expect that rather than going immediately from one partner's house to another, six weeks is considered a seemly interval. So what you're advocating here seems very much compatible with the current status quo.
The trouble is that such a system has its own dangers, and in the long run leads to a lot of what you're trying to avoid: broken homes, broken hearts, and promiscuity. Though the promiscuity may be more spaced out.
We've all heard from troubled kids who are in such a system: "My mom's third husband didn't like me so I went to live with my dad but his girlfriend is my age and we didn't get along so I'm living in my car..."
I don't see how your six-week rule avoids this.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. CFA doesn't catch everything, nowhere near in all honesty...what system possibly could. The laws and text basically try to catch some big hairy bads and promote some big glossy goods: that's all. You say "serial monogamy is the default system" but really that's unspoken, let alone written, and (so?) is broken "all the time," which causes bads, neatly caught by CFA...to a degree.
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 9:49 am
(December 3, 2020 at 9:51 pm)Eleven Wrote: (December 3, 2020 at 1:05 pm)brewer Wrote: 1. I don't need to be a member for my lack of belief.
You're a member of this forum for your lack of belief, just saying.
Piss off.
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 9:50 am
(December 4, 2020 at 9:49 am)brewer Wrote: (December 3, 2020 at 9:51 pm)Eleven Wrote: You're a member of this forum for your lack of belief, just saying.
Piss off.
Awww, I hit a nerve.
Goodie.
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 10:13 am
(December 4, 2020 at 9:50 am)Eleven Wrote: (December 4, 2020 at 9:49 am)brewer Wrote: Piss off.
Awww, I hit a nerve.
Goodie.
No, really.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: A positive identity for atheists - Crusading Faithful Atheism
December 4, 2020 at 10:15 am
(December 4, 2020 at 10:13 am)brewer Wrote: No, really.
Now, we both know you'd miss me too much.
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