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Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
#31
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(December 23, 2020 at 11:12 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
 
That moral tenet is about the only objective moral tenet I know of that has not been shown to ever be subjective. Yahweh seems to be doing the wrong thing.
 
We are told that most of us will end on the wide road to hell while the few end on the narrow path to heaven.
 
It is demonstrable that nature creates for the best possible end.
 
Why does Yahweh not follow the better rules he gave nature, and creates us for the worst possible end for the vast majority of us?
 
A decent father would not have the morals or ethics Yahweh seems to follow.
 
If true, then we end with more souls lost to Satan than souls saved by Yahweh. Even as scriptures say that Yahweh wills that all souls be saved.
 
God not getting his will is not allowed. God must always come out ahead. Something is not right for god.
 
Thoughts?
 
Regards
DL

because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.
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#32
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 23, 2020 at 11:12 am)Greatest I am Wrote:


 
Thoughts?
 
Regards
DL

because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.

Hey Drich - did you get a day pass?
 “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~Albert Einstein                                                 
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#33
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 7, 2021 at 4:36 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote: because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.

Hey Drich - did you get a day pass?

needed some time to get my little shopee up and running
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#34
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 23, 2020 at 11:12 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
 
That moral tenet is about the only objective moral tenet I know of that has not been shown to ever be subjective. Yahweh seems to be doing the wrong thing.
 
We are told that most of us will end on the wide road to hell while the few end on the narrow path to heaven.
 
It is demonstrable that nature creates for the best possible end.
 
Why does Yahweh not follow the better rules he gave nature, and creates us for the worst possible end for the vast majority of us?
 
A decent father would not have the morals or ethics Yahweh seems to follow.
 
If true, then we end with more souls lost to Satan than souls saved by Yahweh. Even as scriptures say that Yahweh wills that all souls be saved.
 
God not getting his will is not allowed. God must always come out ahead. Something is not right for god.
 
Thoughts?
 
Regards
DL

because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.

Belong?

Your Yahweh is an owner of people?

You advocate that human ownership is a good thing. Ok.

You talk of the parables, then reverse what they say of the many being on the wide road to hell.

Is that your type of honesty, Christian?

Regards
DL
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#35
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote: because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.

Sure, must have been that.  Couldn't possibly have been that the people who imagined the character of their god in the story were few, and had needs and desires that ran contrary to what was good for many.
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#36
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 8, 2021 at 5:20 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:
(January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote: because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.

Belong?

Your Yahweh is an owner of people?
absolutely just like any child belongs to their parent we would not want to have it any other way. otherwise how sad or broke would a child be if their parent never took ownership/responsibility for them?
Quote:You advocate that human ownership is a good thing. Ok.
yes 1000% yes so long as both parties are in agreement or one is 100% dependent on the othr.
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You talk of the parables, then reverse what they say of the many being on the wide road to hell.
actually your op speaks of these parables. Parables you don't seem to fully understand. That is why when i give explanation of the parable it seems reversed to what you thought you knew. when in fact the only thing reversed is your understanding.
Quote:Is that your type of honesty, Christian?
my Christianity is not contingent on your understanding of the bible God or what you think is a lie.

in truth My Christianity is based on my personal relationship with God given to me as a gift from Christ that i simply acknowledged, and not earned. meaning my works has nothing to do with me being saved. so really honesty dishonesty is not the measure of a Christian. not to god anyway.. for stupid people that's another matter.. for stupid people i have to say yes i am honest because i am a Christian so as not to have them stumble and shatter their faith/understanding of how God works. so what ever floats you boat.
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#37
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
Children are not property.
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#38
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(January 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote: because the many in the parable already belong to god. they are saved/safe. the lost he leaves the 99 saved for would have never found their way back on their own, if he did not go out to meet them.

Sure, must have been that.  Couldn't possibly have been that the people who imagined the character of their god in the story were few, and had needs and desires that ran contrary to what was good for many.

it was a parable of Christ where he stood with 5000 teaching this story. sooo there's that.

(January 12, 2021 at 2:10 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Children are not property.

then if i take one of your kids are you saying you have no recourse? after all if i take your car, you call the police and say my car is stolen or do you say nothing, because the car is notassigned to you no do you have any ownership rights?

like wise if i take your child do you do nothing? or do you call the police and say someone took MY (a possessive pronoun declaring ownership) https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/parts...onoun.html ) Kid? or because you hold no ownership you drop the matter?

if you seek or demand the child back it is because you are declaring ownership. If you child says @ 10 years old i want to move in with iron man, or want to run off with the circus does the circus now have ownership of said child? does the child get to choose guardianship? no you say? then the rest is a word game. the word ownership my not be used in conjunction with the word child, for bullshite political snow flake reasons. but in all rights and laws ownership is what binds a child to a parent. call it what you want but i can show ownership by act and definition which is all my original point implies.
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#39
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 12, 2021 at 2:09 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 8, 2021 at 5:20 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Belong?

Your Yahweh is an owner of people?
absolutely just like any child belongs to their parent we would not want to have it any other way. otherwise how sad or broke would a child be if their parent never took ownership/responsibility for them?
Quote:You advocate that human ownership is a good thing. Ok.
yes 1000% yes so long as both parties are in agreement or one is 100% dependent on the othr.
Quote:
You talk of the parables, then reverse what they say of the many being on the wide road to hell.
actually your op speaks of these parables. Parables you don't seem to fully understand. That is why when i give explanation of the parable it seems reversed to what you thought you knew. when in fact the only thing reversed is your understanding.
Quote:Is that your type of honesty, Christian?
my Christianity is not contingent on your understanding of the bible God or what you think is a lie.

in truth My Christianity is based on my personal relationship with God given to me as a gift from Christ that i simply acknowledged, and not earned. meaning my works has nothing to do with me being saved. so really honesty dishonesty is not the measure of a Christian. not to god anyway.. for stupid people that's another matter.. for stupid people i have to say yes i am honest because i am a Christian so as not to have them stumble and shatter their faith/understanding of how God works. so what ever floats you boat.

" Parables you don't seem to fully understand."

And that you do not bother showing, like a typical Christian hypocrite.

Keep posting.

You do my job of discrediting your genocidal prick of a god for me.

Regards
DL
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#40
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 18, 2021 at 12:35 pm)Greatest I am Wrote:
(January 12, 2021 at 2:09 pm)Drich Wrote: absolutely just like any child belongs to their parent we would not want to have it any other way. otherwise how sad or broke would a child be if their parent never took ownership/responsibility for them?
yes 1000% yes so long as both parties are in agreement or one is 100% dependent on the othr.
actually your op speaks of these parables. Parables you don't seem to fully understand. That is why when i give explanation of the parable it seems reversed to what you thought you knew. when in fact the only thing reversed is your understanding.
my Christianity is not contingent on your understanding of the bible God or what you think is a lie.

in truth My Christianity is based on my personal relationship with God given to me as a gift from Christ that i simply acknowledged, and not earned. meaning my works has nothing to do with me being saved. so really honesty dishonesty is not the measure of a Christian. not to god anyway.. for stupid people that's another matter.. for stupid people i have to say yes i am honest because i am a Christian so as not to have them stumble and shatter their faith/understanding of how God works. so what ever floats you boat.

" Parables you don't seem to fully understand."

And that you do not bother showing, like a typical Christian hypocrite.

Keep posting.

You do my job of discrediting your genocidal prick of a god for me.

Regards
DL

Oh, none of take Drich seriously.  But we already know that the Christian god is a genocidal prick.
 “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” ~Albert Einstein                                                 
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