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Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
#41
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(January 18, 2021 at 7:26 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(January 18, 2021 at 12:35 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: " Parables you don't seem to fully understand."

And that you do not bother showing, like a typical Christian hypocrite.

Keep posting.

You do my job of discrediting your genocidal prick of a god for me.

Regards
DL

Oh, none of take Drich seriously.  But we already know that the Christian god is a genocidal prick.

All Christians do, yet never question their vile choice of a god. 

That is why they run from any moral discussions.

Regards
DL
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#42
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(December 23, 2020 at 11:12 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
 
That moral tenet is about the only objective moral tenet I know of that has not been shown to ever be subjective. Yahweh seems to be doing the wrong thing.
 
We are told that most of us will end on the wide road to hell while the few end on the narrow path to heaven.
 
It is demonstrable that nature creates for the best possible end.
 
Why does Yahweh not follow the better rules he gave nature, and creates us for the worst possible end for the vast majority of us?
 
A decent father would not have the morals or ethics Yahweh seems to follow.
 
If true, then we end with more souls lost to Satan than souls saved by Yahweh. Even as scriptures say that Yahweh wills that all souls be saved.
 
God not getting his will is not allowed. God must always come out ahead. Something is not right for god.
 
Thoughts?
 
Regards
DL

What say you about this perspective and semi-analogy instead? 

Humanity became disconnected from GOD and fell as a result of disobedience / rebellion / sin / breaking of the law - becoming judged like and captive to the being that caused their fall - which came/comes with consequences (in this case death of the body and soul - Ezekiel 18:4, Romans 6:23).

Let's view humanity, who were all principally in/from the first man, Adam (Romans 5:12), as prisoners in a pit who are sentenced to die.  However, the Judge against whom the offence (and offences) are committed, voluntarily decides to save and restore many of the underserving prisoners to eternal life to dwell with them by Personally paying the gruesome, humiliating price required for their freedom; graciously making invitation to receive pardon? (Isaiah 55:7, Psalm 51:17, Romans 10:8-10)... reaching into the pit to pull many out (Ephesians 2:8)

Now, I may be oversimplifying the matter in so describing, and there are many things that we do not understand as finite beings / flesh and blood, but really, what say you about a Judge like the One described?

V
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#43
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
Needs more dragons. Coffee
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#44
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
god doesn't put the needs of a few above the many. he only cares about his selfish, genocidal, egotistical needs.
he demands worship. he murders babies .he condones rape and slavery. he punishes humanity for seeking knowledge.
he is a douche and his rules are exactly what one would expect from a douche
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#45
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(February 7, 2021 at 8:54 am)masoni Wrote: god doesn't put the needs of a few above the many. he only cares about his selfish, genocidal, egotistical needs.
he demands worship. he murders babies .he condones rape and slavery. he punishes humanity for seeking knowledge.
he is a douche and his rules are exactly what one would expect from a douche

One need not look any farther than the Book of Job to confirm this.  Read
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
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#46
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(February 7, 2021 at 12:10 am)Mercyvessel Wrote: What say you about this perspective and semi-analogy instead? 

Humanity became disconnected from GOD and fell as a result of disobedience / rebellion / sin / breaking of the law - becoming judged like and captive to the being that caused their fall - which came/comes with consequences (in this case death of the body and soul - Ezekiel 18:4, Romans 6:23).

Let's view humanity, who were all principally in/from the first man, Adam (Romans 5:12), as prisoners in a pit who are sentenced to die.  However, the Judge against whom the offence (and offences) are committed, voluntarily decides to save and restore many of the underserving prisoners to eternal life to dwell with them by Personally paying the gruesome, humiliating price required for their freedom; graciously making invitation to receive pardon? (Isaiah 55:7, Psalm 51:17, Romans 10:8-10)... reaching into the pit to pull many out (Ephesians 2:8)

Now, I may be oversimplifying the matter in so describing, and there are many things that we do not understand as finite beings / flesh and blood, but really, what say you about a Judge like the One described?

V
I see that you bolded some content above, I assume you think that it's very meaningful and relevant to the discussion.

I agree.  I judge the gruesome and humiliating price paid to be morally unacceptable, and could not in good conscience profit from it, or exhort others to do the same.  The agent responsible for the instantiation of this manifestly unjust scheme is a reprobate.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#47
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(February 7, 2021 at 12:10 am)Mercyvessel Wrote:
(December 23, 2020 at 11:12 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
 
That moral tenet is about the only objective moral tenet I know of that has not been shown to ever be subjective. Yahweh seems to be doing the wrong thing.
 
We are told that most of us will end on the wide road to hell while the few end on the narrow path to heaven.
 
It is demonstrable that nature creates for the best possible end.
 
Why does Yahweh not follow the better rules he gave nature, and creates us for the worst possible end for the vast majority of us?
 
A decent father would not have the morals or ethics Yahweh seems to follow.
 
If true, then we end with more souls lost to Satan than souls saved by Yahweh. Even as scriptures say that Yahweh wills that all souls be saved.
 
God not getting his will is not allowed. God must always come out ahead. Something is not right for god.
 
Thoughts?
 
Regards
DL

What say you about this perspective and semi-analogy instead? 

Humanity became disconnected from GOD and fell as a result of disobedience / rebellion / sin / breaking of the law - becoming judged like and captive to the being that caused their fall - which came/comes with consequences (in this case death of the body and soul - Ezekiel 18:4, Romans 6:23).

Let's view humanity, who were all principally in/from the first man, Adam (Romans 5:12), as prisoners in a pit who are sentenced to die.  However, the Judge against whom the offence (and offences) are committed, voluntarily decides to save and restore many of the underserving prisoners to eternal life to dwell with them by Personally paying the gruesome, humiliating price required for their freedom; graciously making invitation to receive pardon? (Isaiah 55:7, Psalm 51:17, Romans 10:8-10)... reaching into the pit to pull many out (Ephesians 2:8)

Now, I may be oversimplifying the matter in so describing, and there are many things that we do not understand as finite beings / flesh and blood, but really, what say you about a Judge like the One described?

V

A judge who is offended is not a fit judge.

If I sin, it is a person I victimize. Not your imaginary god.

If the created is faulty, it is the creators fault.

You, almost like a hypocrite, only in the scenario you created, --- not you buddy, --- forget that you cannot help but do what god put in you to do.

That is why your bible shows a universalist god, which you forget he is. He began as all and you have him losing the majority of souls. 

Oh yee of little faith.

Regards
DL

(February 8, 2021 at 10:32 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(February 7, 2021 at 12:10 am)Mercyvessel Wrote: What say you about this perspective and semi-analogy instead? 

Humanity became disconnected from GOD and fell as a result of disobedience / rebellion / sin / breaking of the law - becoming judged like and captive to the being that caused their fall - which came/comes with consequences (in this case death of the body and soul - Ezekiel 18:4, Romans 6:23).

Let's view humanity, who were all principally in/from the first man, Adam (Romans 5:12), as prisoners in a pit who are sentenced to die.  However, the Judge against whom the offence (and offences) are committed, voluntarily decides to save and restore many of the underserving prisoners to eternal life to dwell with them by Personally paying the gruesome, humiliating price required for their freedom; graciously making invitation to receive pardon? (Isaiah 55:7, Psalm 51:17, Romans 10:8-10)... reaching into the pit to pull many out (Ephesians 2:8)

Now, I may be oversimplifying the matter in so describing, and there are many things that we do not understand as finite beings / flesh and blood, but really, what say you about a Judge like the One described?

V
I see that you bolded some content above, I assume you think that it's very meaningful and relevant to the discussion.

I agree.  I judge the gruesome and humiliating price paid to be morally unacceptable, and could not in good conscience profit from it, or exhort others to do the same.  The agent responsible for the instantiation of this manifestly unjust scheme is a reprobate.

The mainstream god religions are slow to know what Gnostic Christians have said forever, --- if the best justice a god can come up with is human blood and an unjust murder, --- then why call such a prick a just judge and God?

Morality speaking, atheists have slowly come into their own superior secular thinking. The religious have lost the god/atheist war and just do not know it yet. Atheist mystery schools will be their demise if you guys could just speed up that process, the god deluded would soon vanish.

Atheists are more just and should be more militant about that degree of perfection over the religious who say their vile morals are better.

I wish atheists would speed up the process.

Regards
DL
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#48
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
If the best that christ can come up with is jesus, why call him christ?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#49
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
(February 8, 2021 at 3:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If the best that christ can come up with is jesus, why call him christ?
Pointing out to Christians that Jesus was never officially anointed to Christ is always ignore by the obtuse.

 You waste your time trying to change the mind of a supernatural believing literal reader of myths.

The intelligent have no way of penetrating a supernatural shield. 

It is the deluded believers force field against reality. Those religious liars who indoctrinated such beliefs should be judged harshly for their abuse of children and the gullible and most vulnerable..

Regards
DL

(February 8, 2021 at 3:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If the best that christ can come up with is jesus, why call him christ?

They also have a hard time showing why they adore a genocidal god.

Christians are great runners from moral reality.

Regards
DL
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#50
RE: Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many?
I agree, so..explain yourself?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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