The Official Gosh Darned Biden Thread

[The Grand Nudger]

 It's a number of billions of dollars, but it's still a pittance to America, but the money could do so much for the people of Afghanistan who are living in extreme poverty and starving.

Oh, we're so very concerned are we, about the afghan people? Not if those funds are released to terrorists or their sponsors.  Minor, maybe problem, easily missed or overlooked..ofc. 

Just to get in front of the inevitable next bit of bullshit, wherein "but america is the terrorist, read the transcripts!!!!" - aaaaand? Is it a bad thing for the afghan people to have to deal with terrorists or sponsors of terrorism flush with cash, whether we believe those terrorists or sponsors are the us, or the taliban?

Then, the next "he says she says terrorism, but isn't that their money and isn't it their decision as to how a country is run, doesn't america believe in self determination?". This objection only works if a person believes that terrorism, for example, is both necessary to and proper of self determination. The us doesn't believe that - very.....very few people anywhere do, other than a terrorist or their sympathizers.

Feel free to advance any of the other doomed objections I failed to list that you are compelled by whatever to share.

[The Architect Of Fate]

LOL IA continuing his path of total failure 

It's not just that we don't trust the Taliban we have proven they are actively siphoning off money from foreign aid and they actively cutting off aid organizations' ability to operate in the country and attempting to centralize all aid through them. If you somehow think it's moral that both people starve and the terrorist organization starving them gets rewarded. Then your idea of morality is messed up and add the fact you are willing to sacrifice Ukraine in the process it makes it all the worst.

[The Grand Nudger]

All the while, it's not as if there aren't plenty of examples of biden actually fucking up. That's what makes the whole thing so silly, from my pov.

The kind of person you could express your concerns over..say..our horrible border policies, to..who would wave that off and insist, instead, that we address what the queers are doing to the soil.

[Irreligious Atheist]

he keeps shelling out billions to Ukraine in an unwinnable situation

Why unwinnable? Are you in love with Putin or something?

Yes, Ukraine should give up and make a peace deal. The experts on this issue basically all say this is a lost cause. I don't know about you, but it's kind of sad seeing tens of thousands of people die like this in a lost cause. I don't know which experts you're listening to. And I don't need to love Putin to not buy into the propaganda like you have. The United States is my countries top ally and I'm glad that is the case, but I call it like I see it. The West and NATO, and Ukraine by keeping an open mind about NATO, made Russia feel like they were being pushed into a corner, so yes, our provocation toward Russia over the years is in large part to blame for the war in Ukraine. Even normies like the Pope are coming out and saying the obvious, but I know you and Helios will never acknowledge the obvious because things have to be black and white with you guys where it's "Russia bad" no matter what. Obviously I disavow how brutal and inhumane the Russian attack has been, but when you make a country feel threatened for long enough and keep pushing it, this is the result. And America is funding this proxy war, so yes, much of the blood continues to be on their hands for that reason.

[Irreligious Atheist]

 It's a number of billions of dollars, but it's still a pittance to America, but the money could do so much for the people of Afghanistan who are living in extreme poverty and starving.

Oh, we're so very concerned are we, about the afghan people?    Not if those funds are released to terrorists or their sponsors.  Minor, maybe problem, easily missed or overlooked..ofc. 

Just to get in front of the inevitable next bit of bullshit, wherein "but america is the terrorist, read the transcripts!!!!" - aaaaand?  Is it a bad thing for the afghan people to have to deal with terrorists or sponsors of terrorism flush with cash, whether we believe those terrorists or sponsors are the us, or the taliban?

Then, the next "he says she says terrorism, but isn't that their money and isn't it their decision as to how a country is run, doesn't america believe in self determination?".  This objection only works if a person believes that terrorism, for example, is both necessary to and proper of self determination.  The us doesn't believe that - very.....very few people anywhere do, other than a terrorist or their sympathizers.

Feel free to advance any of the other doomed objections I failed to list that you are compelled by whatever to share.

Terrorism lol? The Taliban are the legitimate government and should be treated as such, and whether we like their way of life or not, they are of no real threat to America or Europe, so I don't buy into your fear mongering. You stole Afghanistan's money. Now when they starve, the blood is on America's hands.

[Irreligious Atheist]

All the while, it's not as if there aren't plenty of examples of biden actually fucking up.  That's what makes the whole thing so silly, from my pov.  

The kind of person you could express your concerns over..say..our horrible border policies, to..who would wave that off and insist, instead, that we address what the queers are doing to the soil.

Yeah, because caging kids at the border is so, so much worse than starving millions of brown kids in Afghanistan. These things are both bad, but one of them seems to be a little bit worse, me thinks.

[The Architect Of Fate]

LOL IA thinks Russia is going to win and spews Russian propaganda about the war .....

There is only one person responsible for the war in Ukraine and that's the person who launched the war. I see it as black and white because it freaking is 

[Deesse23]

The West and NATO, and Ukraine by keeping an open mind about NATO, made Russia feel like they were being pushed into a corner, so yes, our provocation toward Russia over the years is in large part to blame for the war in Ukraine.

A nation having an open mind about making decisions, as nations so often do, now thats a good reason to be invaded, is it?
Ever considered sending tissues to Moscow?

If (you feel) you are pushed into a corner, you have no business on the international stage of politics anyway - Bismarck

[The Architect Of Fate]

Yeah, because caging kids at the border is so, so much worse than starving millions of brown kids in Afghanistan. These things are both bad, but one of them seems to be a little bit worse, me thinks

Nope they are both just as inhumane the only difference is one doesn't fund a terrorist organization.

[Irreligious Atheist]

The West and NATO, and Ukraine by keeping an open mind about NATO, made Russia feel like they were being pushed into a corner, so yes, our provocation toward Russia over the years is in large part to blame for the war in Ukraine.

A nation having an open mind about making decisions, as nations so often do, now thats a good reason to be invaded, is it?
Ever considered sending tissues to Moscow?

If (you feel) you are pushed into a corner, you have no business on the international stage of politics anyway - Bismarck

Morality doesn't usually matter on the world stage. Might equals right. The West and Ukraine fucked around. We found out.