Flat Earther, and other conspiracy theories. Are they mostly atheists?

[Ferrocyanide]

Flat earth nonsense is mundane compared to the things drich believes.  He might not know any biblical flat earthers because he's too crazy for flat earthers to associate with.

I don’t know him since I am relatively new here. What bizarre things does he believe?

I don’t know how anyone can deny that most flat earthers are christian. There are a few muslims as well. I use to visit a flat earth forum for a while and I asked and I poked around. There were a lot of “globers” and they seemed to be all atheists and that includes me.
I think the reason is that atheists care about sanity, logic, science.
Personally, I was there to talk about the evidence and also provide a mathematical backing to what I was talking about but the flat earthers did not understand and claim that mathematics is man made and means nothing.

The funny thing was that one flat earther used Blender to make a model of the flat earth with the rotating Sun. He said that the Sun doesn’t go below the horizon (He posted the video) and he could not find an explanation for it.

[Belacqua]

I think the reason is that atheists care about sanity, logic, science.

Some do.

[Ferrocyanide]

I think the reason is that atheists care about sanity, logic, science.

Some do.

Of course, but I was speaking about the flat earth forum and other locations I visit.
There seems to be a lacking number of jews, christians, muslims trying to inject some sanity, logic and science into this world + christians outnumber atheists in the USA and Canada yet they seem strangely absent.
For example, when the issue is young earth creationisms (+big bang theory +Biological evolution), again, the christian groups are mostly absent.

[Fake Messiah]

So, I have a video on youtube, it was about the belief in a flat Earth.
I got into a discussion with someone.
He says (possibly a theist):
“Tbh, most of the conspiracy theorists I know are atheists. Maybe I'm just lucky.”

I can imagine that from a perspective of a theist, a believer in conspiracy theories is an atheist because a lot of conspiracy theories don’t need laws of physics broken to be believed in. Like if someone believes in bigfoot it’s believing in a creature that is just more harrier than some hairy humans, or space aliens could have come to Earth without breaking the laws of physics and nature.

So, from a perspective of a theist who believes in a guy who came from a virgin birth, walked on water, and resurrected, a conspiracy nut looks almost like an intellectual and therefore atheist. Because believing in religious stuff is much more batshit crazy than lots of conspiracies—like Sam Harris once said: “If you believe that saying few Latin words above pancakes will turn them into Elvis, you are crazy, but if you do the same for waffles and Jesus, you’re just a Catholic.”

Now, of course, flat-Earthism is up there with man flying on a donkey to a city in the sky, and waffles turning into flesh, so it would be hard to tie it with atheism.

[arewethereyet]

Flat earth nonsense is mundane compared to the things drich believes.  He might not know any biblical flat earthers because he's too crazy for flat earthers to associate with.

I don’t know him since I am relatively new here. What bizarre things does he believe?

I don’t know how anyone can deny that most flat earthers are christian. There are a few muslims as well. I use to visit a flat earth forum for a while and I asked and I poked around. There were a lot of “globers” and they seemed to be all atheists and that includes me.
I think the reason is that atheists care about sanity, logic, science.
Personally, I was there to talk about the evidence and also provide a mathematical backing to what I was talking about but the flat earthers did not understand and claim that mathematics is man made and means nothing.

The funny thing was that one flat earther used Blender to make a model of the flat earth with the rotating Sun. He said that the Sun doesn’t go below the horizon (He posted the video) and he could not find an explanation for it.

Bold mine...

That list is long and convoluted.  Among the things are his actually meeting an angel and being cured of AIDS or something, we aren't quite sure, by gawd himself.  Stick around.  He recycles his stories fairly frequently.

[Ferrocyanide]

So, I have a video on youtube, it was about the belief in a flat Earth.
I got into a discussion with someone.
He says (possibly a theist):
“Tbh, most of the conspiracy theorists I know are atheists. Maybe I'm just lucky.”

I can imagine that from a perspective of a theist, a believer in conspiracy theories is an atheist because a lot of conspiracy theories don’t need laws of physics broken to be believed in. Like if someone believes in bigfoot it’s believing in a creature that is just more harrier than some hairy humans, or space aliens could have come to Earth without breaking the laws of physics and nature.

So, from a perspective of a theist who believes in a guy who came from a virgin birth, walked on water, and resurrected, a conspiracy nut looks almost like an intellectual and therefore atheist. Because believing in religious stuff is much more batshit crazy than lots of conspiracies—like Sam Harris once said: “If you believe that saying few Latin words above pancakes will turn them into Elvis, you are crazy, but if you do the same for waffles and Jesus, you’re just a Catholic.”

Now, of course, flat-Earthism is up there with man flying on a donkey to a city in the sky, and waffles turning into flesh, so it would be hard to tie it with atheism.

I suppose rejecting the fact that NASA landed on the Moon could attract atheists (atheists who care about science) but my experience has been that these too are often christians.
I remember some guy mentioning operation paper clip, the NASA logo having a snake tongue and why are all the picture perfect if the cameras don’t have a viewfinder. In reality, most of the photos were garbage and they are all uploaded on nasa.gov.

There is apparently a bunch of people who think an alien lizard people have conquered Earth and they are running the show. One day, I will have to chat with a few them.
Some flat earthers also believe in chemtrails. Again, this is an area I haven’t poked around much.

Just recently, I has a chat with 4 people about COVID-19 + the restriction placed by the Mayor of Toronto.
3 of them were more clearly religious.

Source:
Global National: April 11, 2021 | Ontario reports highest number of daily COVID-19 cases ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZnhRD7UK4w
By Global News
Length = 22:13

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Bold mine...

That list is long and convoluted.  Among the things are his actually meeting an angel and being cured of AIDS or something, we aren't quite sure, by gawd himself.  Stick around.  He recycles his stories fairly frequently.

Cool.
I hope Drich comes back.
I will PM him.

[Drich]

As A Christian I do not know one flat earth Christian, one moon landing denier, anti vaxxers are limited to Jehovah witnesses and technically they do not believe Jesus is the one and only son of God, so can't be christian. (I don't think chrona virus vaxs should count as they are not truly a vax as they are not even FDA regulated vaxs) nor have i ever seen homeopathy being up held as the way to go ever. not to say it can't happen in the church. it's simply not popular in the church. I guess the old adage is true.. If you don't believe in Something/God you will fall for anything

Of course the FDA regulate the vaccines for coronavirus. Here is the heading from the COVID-19 section of the FDA website:

The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.

Don’t be stupid.

Boru

they say they are the same but they are not the same. the mear fact that the vaccine has not undergone the same trial periods as any other typical vaccine.. the normal process: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biolo...opment-101

this process of development can take as long as 10 years.. and the fda scrutiny another 6 months to a year after the fact.
https://www.hiv.va.gov/patient/clinical-...rocess.asp

the whole development to implementation process took less than a year. there is no way " regulatory process" is the same with covid vax as with all others.

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As A Christian I do not know one flat earth Christian, one moon landing denier, anti vaxxers are limited to Jehovah witnesses and technically they do not believe Jesus is the one and only son of God, so can't be christian. (I don't think chrona virus vaxs should count as they are not truly a vax as they are not even FDA regulated vaxs) nor have i ever seen homeopathy being up held as the way to go ever. not to say it can't happen in the church. it's simply not popular in the church. I guess the old adage is true.. If you don't believe in Something/God you will fall for anything

You do realize that the phrase "The Church" refers to the Catholic Church, right?

And the saying "if you don't believe in something, you will fall for anything" doesn't include the word god.

Just make shit up as you go though...you do you.  We all know you are full of shit.

1) actually my girl "the church" is a term that refers biblically to the bride of Christ which the bible identifies as the catholic church not to be confused with thr roman or Greek or any other man man church who seeks to capitalize on the term that describes the saved/select followers of christ.

2)   so says someone who does not know the difference between the roman catholic church and 'the church' described in scripture.

3) were it so simple.. I can earnestly take any intellectually honest person and show the book chapter and verse on just about everything I have ever shared about God/The bible. the rest of you are too proud to ever admit that you did your best and failed in a crap version of religion. if you can not admit maybe you and people who believed as you did have it wrong but others can have it right, you will never be open minded enough to learn/accept anything you do not already think you know.. the catholic church/the church being a excellent example.

[arewethereyet]

Of course the FDA regulate the vaccines for coronavirus. Here is the heading from the COVID-19 section of the FDA website:



Don’t be stupid.

Boru

they say they are the same but they are not the same. the mear fact that the vaccine has not undergone the same trial periods as any other typical vaccine.. the normal process: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biolo...opment-101

this process of development can take as long as 10 years.. and the fda scrutiny another 6 months to a year after the fact.
https://www.hiv.va.gov/patient/clinical-...rocess.asp

the whole development to implementation process took less than a year. there is no way " regulatory process" is the same with covid vax as with all others.

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You do realize that the phrase "The Church" refers to the Catholic Church, right?

And the saying "if you don't believe in something, you will fall for anything" doesn't include the word god.

Just make shit up as you go though...you do you.  We all know you are full of shit.

1) actually my girl "the church" is a term that refers biblically to the bride of Christ which the bible identifies as the catholic church not to be confused with thr roman or Greek or any other man man church who seeks to capitalize on the term that describes the saved/select followers of christ.

2)   so says someone who does not know the difference between the roman catholic church and 'the church' described in scripture.

3) were it so simple.. I can earnestly take any intellectually honest person and show the book chapter and verse on just about everything I have ever shared about God/The bible. the rest of you are too proud to ever admit that you did your best and failed in a crap version of religion. if you can not admit maybe you and people who believed as you did have it wrong but others can have it right, you will never be open minded enough to learn/accept anything you do not already think you know.. the catholic church/the church being a excellent example.

If you are the best the Christian god has when it comes to bringing people to the "correct" church, he is weak indeed.

[Drich]

My explanation is that you aren’t poking around the web or maybe you’ve seen them but you decided to push them under your rug.
^^^^^Please DON’T do that. Don’t lie to yourself. Accept the data as is.

Here are a few sources.
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Source:
https://nowthisnews.com/videos/future/ho...-connected

“Religion might be the reason 2% of Americans believe the Earth is flat.”

“Of that flat Earth group, 52% identify as “very religious” and the tone of the flat Earth discussion on YouTube seems to back the “very religious” poll.”

“YouTuber Dave Murphy, stated, “The Bible has a very, very clear view of what this place, is, and it matches that place more than it matches this. Everything we see, the trillions of galaxies, it shows how mighty and how amazing god is. But were we praising satan’s lie? Were we looking at a lie and attaching god to it?””

Flat-Earthers even go against renowned scientists like Neil deGrasse Tyson, including YouTuber Rob Skiba, who stated, “Carl Sagan, Neil deGrasse Tyson, all these other guys, Michio Kaku, say these are spinning galaxies with billions and billions of stars, all with planets going around them, are coming to Earth. Someone’s lying. I don’t know about you, but I’m not prepared to say that it’s Isaiah, Yeshua, Pater, or John.”

it seems like you single sourced everything you believe. this is not how proper research is done. as a single source could be biased or have an agenda against a group of people or have a bias to spin information to align itself with it's internal propaganda.

for an example here are three sources that point to flat earth originating (1000's of years ago with religion) but now in modern times taken root with philosophers pseudo scientists/gen z-ers and millennials (young people who challenge everything/too stupid to know better) and good olde fashion conspiracy theorists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_flat_Earth_beliefs
https://www.livescience.com/62220-millen...elief.html (this shows only 20% are very religious and believe in flat earth which means almost 50% belief in flate earth are not mandated by religious belief.)

and the final nail in your biased/fake news coffin comes from the flat earth's scoeity official website: s the Flat Earth Theory connected to a religion?
The Flat Earth Theory is neither officially nor unofficially associated with any religion. Throughout the ages various religious institutions have championed a Flat Earth model for the world. Unfortunately this leaves us with the vestigial thought that Flat Earth theory and religions are symbiotic. They are not, even though many religions today, both mainstream and otherwise, still teach its followers that the world is flat. While they are not incorrect, believing in a Flat Earth isn't contingent upon believing in a deity or being a part of any religion.

in essence they hate the fact that people such as yourself just assume they are religious in nature, as they prefer stand on pseudo science as their foundation not God!!!
https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequ..._Questions

do you see how i provided three different sources, they all gave three different perspectives yet held a common core/point? That is how i can say with confidence that I have never heard christians incorporate flat earth into their beliefs.

Not to say there aren't any as you found one sect who apparently does.. but again one sect out of 30,000 doesn't mean it's the norm for everyone.

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they say they are the same but they are not the same. the mear fact that the vaccine has not undergone the same trial periods as any other typical vaccine.. the normal process: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biolo...opment-101

this process of development can take as long as 10 years.. and the fda scrutiny another 6 months to a year after the fact.
https://www.hiv.va.gov/patient/clinical-...rocess.asp

the whole development to implementation process took less than a year. there is no way " regulatory process" is the same with covid vax as with all others.

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1) actually my girl "the church" is a term that refers biblically to the bride of Christ which the bible identifies as the catholic church not to be confused with thr roman or Greek or any other man man church who seeks to capitalize on the term that describes the saved/select followers of christ.

2)   so says someone who does not know the difference between the roman catholic church and 'the church' described in scripture.

3) were it so simple.. I can earnestly take any intellectually honest person and show the book chapter and verse on just about everything I have ever shared about God/The bible. the rest of you are too proud to ever admit that you did your best and failed in a crap version of religion. if you can not admit maybe you and people who believed as you did have it wrong but others can have it right, you will never be open minded enough to learn/accept anything you do not already think you know.. the catholic church/the church being a excellent example.

If you are the best the Christian god has when it comes to bringing people to the "correct" church, he is weak indeed.

wide and easy is the path to destruction.. narrow and difficult is the path to salvation. If God is indeed different than you are, why would you assume anything he has to say or demands from us will easily resonate with you?

it is funny how you all say God is built in our image and yet you hate everything about him and what he has done for us. why would we build a god that is our moral opposite?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Of course the FDA regulate the vaccines for coronavirus. Here is the heading from the COVID-19 section of the FDA website:



Don’t be stupid.

Boru

they say they are the same but they are not the same. the mear fact that the vaccine has not undergone the same trial periods as any other typical vaccine.. the normal process: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biolo...opment-101

this process of development can take as long as 10 years.. and the fda scrutiny another 6 months to a year after the fact.
https://www.hiv.va.gov/patient/clinical-...rocess.asp

the whole development to implementation process took less than a year. there is no way 
" regulatory process" is the same with covid vax as with all others.

(Bit not relevant to my reply snipped)
 
You seem to have misunderstood me. I said DON’T be stupid.

Boru