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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 10:51 am
(April 15, 2021 at 10:40 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 10:37 am)Brian37 Wrote: I get the emotion, but the issue isn't one jury or one case. The issue is changing our system long term, not getting rid of juries.
I do believe that the DA has noted that if it is hung, that they would try again. But I think a hung jury is going to be hard with this jury because several of the jurrors are black, including black women.
You realize that you statement about the jury is racist as hell, right?
You are assuming they will vote a certain way based solely on their race.
Back up and start over.
No, sorry, you don't get to decide for me what thoughts are in my head.
No, I am not assuming that blacks will vote to convict just because Chauvin is white. I am saying that it is a mixed jury, and I am quite sure prior to this case, both white jurors and black jurors are bringing their life's experiences into it. Not evidence wise, but climate wise. I am sure both the defense lawyer and prosecutor saught to place jurors on the jury that would be as objective as possible. But it is still a mixed jury.
Unlike back in the 60s and prior, the juries were stacked. Don't falsely accuse me of claiming the prosecutor put blacks on the jury just to convict a white cop.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 10:55 am
(April 15, 2021 at 10:51 am)Brian37 Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 10:40 am)arewethereyet Wrote: You realize that you statement about the jury is racist as hell, right?
You are assuming they will vote a certain way based solely on their race.
Back up and start over.
No, sorry, you don't get to decide for me what thoughts are in my head.
No, I am not assuming that blacks will vote to convict just because Chauvin is white. I am saying that it is a mixed jury, and I am quite sure prior to this case, both white jurors and black jurors are bringing their life's experiences into it. Not evidence wise, but climate wise. I am sure both the defense lawyer and prosecutor saught to place jurors on the jury that would be as objective as possible. But it is still a mixed jury.
Unlike back in the 60s and prior, the juries were stacked. Don't falsely accuse me of claiming the prosecutor put blacks on the jury just to convict a white cop. Look you simpleton...this is a racist statement...full fucking stop.
"But I think a hung jury is going to be hard with this jury because several of the jurrors are black, including black women.:
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:05 am
(April 15, 2021 at 10:55 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 10:51 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, sorry, you don't get to decide for me what thoughts are in my head.
No, I am not assuming that blacks will vote to convict just because Chauvin is white. I am saying that it is a mixed jury, and I am quite sure prior to this case, both white jurors and black jurors are bringing their life's experiences into it. Not evidence wise, but climate wise. I am sure both the defense lawyer and prosecutor saught to place jurors on the jury that would be as objective as possible. But it is still a mixed jury.
Unlike back in the 60s and prior, the juries were stacked. Don't falsely accuse me of claiming the prosecutor put blacks on the jury just to convict a white cop. Look you simpleton...this is a racist statement...full fucking stop.
"But I think a hung jury is going to be hard with this jury because several of the jurrors are black, including black women.:
OH MY GOD!
So are you accusing the Prosecutor of stacking the jury?
I am not assuming shit. I am saying that if there is one white holdout it is going to be harder for them to make their argument. AGAIN, there was a time in this country where juries were stacked against blacks. Are you stupidly trying to claim that blacks should not sit on juries, or that they cant be objective?
My bet is even most of the white jurrors are going agree with the black jurors. I was talking about one potential white holdout.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:08 am
Own it. You made, not your first, racist remark.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:13 am
(April 15, 2021 at 11:08 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Own it. You made, not your first, racist remark.
So the blacks simply lied to the court to sit on a jury just so they could convict a white cop? Is that what you are stupidly arguing?
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:15 am
(April 15, 2021 at 11:13 am)Brian37 Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 11:08 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Own it. You made, not your first, racist remark.
So the blacks simply lied to the court to sit on a jury just so they could convict a white cop? Is that what you are stupidly arguing?
Bold mine - really?
You are too stupid for words.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:17 am
(April 15, 2021 at 11:13 am)Brian37 Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 11:08 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Own it. You made, not your first, racist remark.
So the blacks simply lied to the court to sit on a jury just so they could convict a white cop? Is that what you are stupidly arguing? People do that sort of shit ALL the time.....
I know - first hand.
I had an EMT tell the judge he didn't have a problem with motorcycles ---
then tried to convince the rest of the jury it was my fault for being on a motorcycle......
...
Moral of story.
People Suck.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:23 am
(April 15, 2021 at 11:15 am)arewethereyet Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 11:13 am)Brian37 Wrote: So the blacks simply lied to the court to sit on a jury just so they could convict a white cop? Is that what you are stupidly arguing?
Bold mine - really?
You are too stupid for words.
OH MY GOD....
SHOOT ME.
The African American jurrors. You fucking knew what I meant.
You are fucking making mountains out of molehills.
The whites, on that same jury are far more likely to side with the African American jurrors.
If I say "the whites" am I accusing you of being anti white?
You got me, I am a card caring KKK member, Proud boy, I was at the innsurection and I love Trump.
Oh wait, maybe you took what I said out of context.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:26 am
(April 15, 2021 at 11:23 am)Brian37 Wrote: (April 15, 2021 at 11:15 am)arewethereyet Wrote: Bold mine - really?
You are too stupid for words.
OH MY GOD....
SHOOT ME.
The African American jurrors. You fucking knew what I meant.
You are fucking making mountains out of molehills.
The whites, on that same jury are far more likely to side with the African American jurrors.
If I say "the whites" am I accusing you of being anti white?
You got me, I am a card caring KKK member, Proud boy, I was at the innsurection and I love Trump.
Oh wait, maybe you took what I said out of context.
Think about what you say and how you say it...for a change.
Dipshit.
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RE: Chauvin Murder Trial
April 15, 2021 at 11:50 am
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2021 at 12:04 pm by Brian37.)
Some of the past coulpe day's testimony from the defense has been about proximity to the exhaust pipes of the police car.
Fucking smoke and mirrors to me. Even if Floyd breathing in the exhaust had contributed, it still does not change that Floyed passed out, became limp and had no pulse, and Chauvin had his knee on his neck for several minutes before the EMT put him in the ambulance. You are still dealing with no aid and no cpr for that amount of time.
Defense rested. Seems that closing arguments will start on Monday.
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