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Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
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RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
At work.

OP is about as coherant in their veiws and assessments as a piece of Jackson Pollock impression art stay within the lines.

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RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
(March 22, 2021 at 12:28 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.

(March 22, 2021 at 12:25 pm)Walter99 Wrote: If an 18 year old man stood in front of you, put on some lipstick, and told you he's really a 90 year old woman who's been mistreated by men would you believe him just because he told you normal is subjective or would you think he 's an actor/escaped mental patient?

Why do you get to answer my question with another question instead of clarifying my question with an answer?

 Also, where is the 'Moral' part in your example of a person's gender identity?

You didn't answer the question either.

It's immoral to counterfeit without permission but if life is subjective like you say then you don't need permission to do anything and there is no right or wrong.

You can tell everybody you're an atheist or a klingon because there's no such thing as a lie but it's fiction because there is.
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#23
RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
(March 22, 2021 at 12:35 pm)Walter99 Wrote:
(March 22, 2021 at 12:28 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.


Why do you get to answer my question with another question instead of clarifying my question with an answer?

 Also, where is the 'Moral' part in your example of a person's gender identity?

It's immoral to counterfeit without permission but if life is subjective like you say then you don't need permission to do anything and there is no right or wrong.

Where did Peebo-Thuhlu say life is subjective?
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#24
RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
At work.

(March 22, 2021 at 12:35 pm)Walter99 Wrote:
(March 22, 2021 at 12:28 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Why do you get to answer my question with another question instead of clarifying my question with an answer?

 Also, where is the 'Moral' part in your example of a person's gender identity?

You didn't answer the question either.

It's immoral to counterfeit without permission but if life is subjective like you say then you don't need permission to do anything and there is no right or wrong.

You can tell everybody you're an atheist or a klingon because there's no such thing as a lie but it's fiction because there is.

So to paraphrase;

"You didn't therefore I don't have to either."

Nice.

You keep using words. I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.

"Immoral" and "Counterfeit"? What?

I don't tell everyone I'm an "Atheist". I don't got round seeking people out for such things, either.

I tell the people that ask me that I'm a "Nontheist".

So there is that.

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#25
RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
Correct me if I'm wrong..but even in a subjective world..you might still need permission for a thing. Isn't that how cartels work?

Right, wrong, legal, illegal..whatever, pay me.

There may be a good example of a difference between an objectivist and subjectivist worlds....but it seems like the permission example could be true in either and without respect to the condition of either.
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RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
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RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
(March 22, 2021 at 1:02 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
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Attagirl.

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RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
(March 22, 2021 at 12:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong..but even in a subjective world..you might still need permission for a thing.  Isn't that how cartels work?  

Right, wrong, legal, illegal..whatever, pay me.  

There may be a good example of a difference between an objectivist and subjectivist worlds....but it seems like the permission example could be true in either and without respect to the condition of either.

Why would you need permission in a subjective world?

Doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of being subjective?

You probably mean that you want life to be subjective for you but not others.

It's a good way to get away with rape etc.
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#29
RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
(March 22, 2021 at 1:07 pm)Walter99 Wrote:
(March 22, 2021 at 12:50 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong..but even in a subjective world..you might still need permission for a thing.  Isn't that how cartels work?  

Right, wrong, legal, illegal..whatever, pay me.  

There may be a good example of a difference between an objectivist and subjectivist worlds....but it seems like the permission example could be true in either and without respect to the condition of either.

Why would you need permission in a subjective world?

Doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of being subjective?

You probably mean that you want life to be subjective for you but not others.

It's a good way to get away with rape etc.

Your trolling skills need work, brah.
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#30
RE: Popular atheist says universe is not a work of art like a painting
(March 22, 2021 at 12:35 pm)Walter99 Wrote:
(March 22, 2021 at 12:28 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: At work.


Why do you get to answer my question with another question instead of clarifying my question with an answer?

 Also, where is the 'Moral' part in your example of a person's gender identity?

You didn't answer the question either.

It's immoral to counterfeit without permission but if life is subjective like you say then you don't need permission to do anything and there is no right or wrong.

You can tell everybody you're an atheist or a klingon because there's no such thing as a lie but it's fiction because there is.
If you want us to stay on your script you'll have to say which one you're using.
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