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why not religionism ?
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RE: why not religionism ?
Quote:Islam is a sectarian idol with two main heads: Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam.
Inside that idol, there are believers in secular law, believers in the old ways (aka Salafies), the Shia have their Twelver cult,... .
Yup you idiots have been killing each other over fairytales forever.


Quote:So which one are you pinpointing to ? I understand that the Islamism you are against is the infrastructure that contains a school of thought guarded by some old beards, and a group of followers for it, with the goal of global domination via war.
No one supported by various tyrants throughout Islamic history and tolerated throughout the Islamic world 



Quote:I can understand the above being a threat but imagine a country bombing civilians and threaten its enemy with atomic Holocaust, what to do in front of its invasion? greet it with flowers?
No Muslim country has ever been nuked and nukes were only used by the west as the last resort, And once again funny how you never criticize other countries for bombing civilians, And with exception of Iraqi invasions have been provoked.  


Quote:In other words the chasing people and killing them will make them chase you too.
Accept we were not chasing you and you would have done so anyway 

Quote:Just like Americans chased the British once.
Not even remotely the same.
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RE: why not religionism ?
(April 6, 2021 at 1:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 6, 2021 at 12:45 pm)Drich Wrote: sorry didn't realize i needed to hold the great boru's hand though my use of the word hate. as discrimination is not synomous nor intrinsically holds any ill will in the simple act of discrimination. A person who understand this term and does not jump the gun understand discrimination is a neutral act. it can be used it identify people in need or the extremely smart among us. it can also be uses as a tool to group like minds together to teach more effectively and or treat a group a certain way. where discrimination becomes a problem is when people use this tool as a means to isolate and hate others. because discrimination is a netural tool it can be used to build up and tear down. only the indoctrinated see discrimination as a tool for only the wicked. in fact this whole thread is about discrimination between religious and non religious people. which in of itself is a non issue, but the follow up to this line of separation is why are religious treated as people who use discrimination as a means to separate and hate? to which i pointed out not all discrimination leads to hate in fact i went so far as to identify the types of discrimination that are tied to hate which are not tools of the church alone.

I must have missed where you explained about the different forms of discrimination. My apologies.

Yes, discrimination can be a neutral and even a useful act, but that is manifestly not the tone taken by the OP. Winter was clearly referring to religious discrimination in its most negative sense, and I’ve chose to follow his lead.

No one is claiming that negative discrimination is a exclusively tool of the church - people discriminate for all sorts of reasons. But - not to belabour the point - this particular thread happens to be about religious discrimination. And I stand by my earlier point that the majority of people doing it are religionists. I’ve been discriminated against by these types and I’m not even religious.

Boru
that's all i was looking to point out while the church has used discrimination to cut people off, even burn them at that stake ect.. the term is not synomous with religious based hatred. there is a contrast most people over look which is why religionism is not a detorgorty term like racism. in that hate unlike with racisms is not intrinsically apart of religious discrimination. rather religious discrimination is paired with hate.
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RE: why not religionism ?
(April 7, 2021 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote:
(April 6, 2021 at 1:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I must have missed where you explained about the different forms of discrimination. My apologies.

Yes, discrimination can be a neutral and even a useful act, but that is manifestly not the tone taken by the OP. Winter was clearly referring to religious discrimination in its most negative sense, and I’ve chose to follow his lead.

No one is claiming that negative discrimination is a exclusively tool of the church - people discriminate for all sorts of reasons. But - not to belabour the point - this particular thread happens to be about religious discrimination. And I stand by my earlier point that the majority of people doing it are religionists. I’ve been discriminated against by these types and I’m not even religious.

Boru
that's all i was looking to point out while the church has used discrimination to cut people off, even burn them at that stake ect.. the term is not synomous with religious based hatred. there is a contrast most people over look which is why religionism is not a detorgorty term like racism. in that hate unlike with racisms is not intrinsically apart of religious discrimination. rather religious discrimination is paired with hate.

*shrug* Like Angrboda implies, a difference which makes no difference IS no difference. Who are the people most likely to practice religious discrimination?

Boru
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