The implications of Obama's words at the Charleston shooting memorial.

[Duty]

If Obama did not mean that the massacre was God's will, and praise be, why say he works in "mysterious" ways? Why not just say it's great how people have reacted to the tragedy, through God, or somesuch? The "mystery" is glaringly obviously that God allowed/brought about the massacre of his devout followers in the first place, and that's what Obama "explains" with the phrase GWIMW - what other "mystery" could he possibly have been referring to with that mother of all elephants (the massacre) in the room?!

I know this must be a sensitive topic for....patriotic Americans, but really, wipe the sawdust from your eyes, for heathen's sake.

[Rev. Rye]

I can only assume that this is just a thought-terminating cliche that Obama and many other Christians use to get around the fact that, well, if you’re going to assume that there’s an all-powerful and loving God, shit like Dylan Roof’s massacre shows he’s asleep at the wheel.

Either that or they think that these massacres are just a means to an end that God is moving towards, like, to use an old example I heard somewhere, the Holocaust was God’s way of getting human rights laws passed around the world. Why, yes, this is extremely fucked up, which is why I don’t think they tend to think too closely about it,

[The Grand Nudger]

It would be patriotic to say that we're going to do what needs to be done for us regardless of whatever some fairy might have in mind or how it moves.  


While it would be ridiculous if the president of the us thought it was gods will that americans get mowed down, it's clear that the notion in question is something even less than that.  The mysterious way gods supposed to be working here, is to defy and confound the will of the shooter, and help people see something.  There's nothing more ridiculous than a public servant babbling about what god does, is doing, or will do.  That's not gods job.  Ya might even call it dereliction.  At any rate, if we assume that both god and Barack Obama were on the case - the results speak for themselves.

[Drich]

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[The Grand Nudger]

That's where you're wrong. Very devout and holy people shoot up churches, because devout and holy. You can suck at the tit of secular peace all you like, but that's just because you don't have it in you to be mujahideen.

If you weren't such a worthless liar I'd start a clock on you.

You say "let god judge them" because, in your mind, god judges as you would judge, and is as violent and bloodthirsty and dismissive and race obsessed as you wish society would let you be, if not for all that pesky pop morality™. Theres no high ground on offer when a racist piece of shit insists that his racist piece of shit god will judge people. You're all hate, no effort.

[Drich]