Female cops for the first time in Mecca

[WinterHold]

On account of how eyeliner doesn't give me a worship interrupting stiffy?  Sometimes, I don't think that you can fully understand how backward and damaged the religious sound.

No. This topic is about "women putting makeup inside the Grand Mosque such as eyeliners".
It's not about the eyeliner in itself.

But your role is to make fun of everything religious; so keep making fun.

[brewer]

Winter says: "She can put an eyeliner elsewhere if she wants"

I'm imagining where else a woman would put eyeliner.  Damn my infidel brain.

[The Grand Nudger]

The reason that I don't get wood on account of eyeliner has nothing to do with my opinions about the worlds various religions and everything to do with how it's not seen as dirty, as naughty. It's just paint. Like kids with kitten whiskers at a county fair. Taboo breeds perversion.

Think of all of the taboo in your silly religion, and what that means for you. Other people make you feel uncomfortably sexual - and rather than deal with your own hangups like a grown adult, you insist that something should be done about them. Something legal. The notion that the author of the cosmos, who created every dangling bit of humanity, would be bothered or concerned by something like eyeliner, or even a swinging dong, is ludicrous. That's just you exporting your own perversion onto a thing you think is god. Howsabout that for making fun of a religion? I couldn't do it better myself.

[Silver]

I've worn makeup, I don't see the problem with it.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're not at all concerned that it will turn Winter in to a disgraceful lust monster abandoned by a prude god? You monster!

[Brian37]

I've always wondered how it goes over many Muslim women's heads that they choose to wear makeup, which is for sexualizing yourself, and then they cover their hair. It's just funny to me is all.

You should see some of the people at my parent's church, Winter. There's this girl in her 20s that dresses like a complete whore and she works with the children. She wears shorts so short you can see her butt cheeks. Even I think it's disrespectful to dress that way in a place of worship. She would definitely be distracting from my worship if I believed in God. And then the lady who plays the keyboard takes off her shoes when she's playing. Doesn't she know how common having a foot fetish is? Feet are the best.

The Hijab's main goal is to remove artificial sexualization of women in a society, both men & women have a sentence in the Quran that is the main source of the Hijab:

Sura 24, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 30 )   Tell the believing men to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what they do.

( 31 )   And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.

That's my problem with the female Saudi guards in the Grand Mosque. Niqab along with an eyeliner is seductive and far from "professionalism and modesty".

I speak with full honesty, men and women are human beings with sexual desires, if I saw a woman with a Niqab and an eyeliner my head will jump to what's beneath the Niqab, if I saw a woman taking off her shoes I would fantasize about her feet.

Denying this is denying human biology. A house of God must respect and know that the visitors are humans, with a human biology.

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Winter - If you were really serious about worshipping your gawd then I doubt that a touch of eyeliner would get in the way.  Do we really need to know or care if men wear underwear to the mosque?  Maybe what's needed is some of that Mormon magic underwear.

You are a sad little man. Twitter boots you and back here you crawl.

Nuns; arewethereyet. Christian nuns. Are they allowed by the Church to put make-up and eyeliners?

https://www.answers.com/Q/Can_nuns_wear_makeup

Nuns can wear makeup but they are gently urged against it on a regular basis. I'm sure they wear makeup when special occasions come up. They really have no use for makeup otherwise. They are not in any way trying to attract any attention to themselves because they were sworn to chastity.

+ there are no "females" guarding the Vatican, quite sexist but not allowed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard

In 2009, the Pontifical Swiss Guard commandant, Daniel Anrig, suggested that the Guard might someday be open to recruiting women, but he added that the admission of female recruits remained far in the future.[19]

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Guard#cite_note-19][/url]
Christians don't even recruit women as guards in their Vatican !

Um no, the Hijab is a way of men subjugating women. It has nothing to do with what the woman personaly wants, it is historically mysognistic. Non Muslim women in America wear scarfs, because they like them, not because of what an old book says. And religiously based gender roll clothing is not unique to Islam. Nuns in many places in the world are expected to dress a certain way. Amish and LDS females here in America are expected to dress a certain way. It is all bullshit to me. Females are individuals, not property to be dictated to. 

And why would any woman need your permission to wear eyeliner?

[Ranjr]

Does she carry real handcuffs or the fuzzy kind?  Don't be too scriptural.  This may be God's way of saying happy birthday.

[Fake Messiah]

But your role is to make fun of everything religious; so keep making fun.

Religion is already ridiculous, it doesn't need Grand's help, it has you. Like just look at the discussions religious people have: This topic is about "women putting makeup inside the Grand Mosque such as eyeliners".

[Bucky Ball]

All such prayer events are such a total turn-on.
Both men and women are on the ground waggeling their butts about in the air, and praying, "See what a great ass I have. Pick mine, pick mine".
It just too much to even bear ... or would that be "bare".
Carry on. The waggeling pleases the gods.
Mabe this is where bees learned to do their waggle-dance. Worshiping the bee gods.

[Apollo]

So, Mecca's Grand Mosque has female guards now for the first time in history.
Their uniform is like this:





It is a great advancement for women to finally join this great naturalistic movement that Sunnies banned through their life -especially the Sauds-.

But I have a deep problem with this: why are the female cops wearing Niqab + makeup in a place of worship like this? In the holy mosque, women should never wear Niqab in the first place, let alone put any makeup. Wouldn't this corrupt the worship of Muslim men -who wear no underwear in the Mosque if they are in pilgrimage-?

I expect a mosque to be...a pure place. A place where I get no turn-on. That's why both women and men should never ever do anything that can turn the other gender on when they come to worship, especially in the most holy site in Islam.

I write this here because I wrote it on twitter and got so many negative reports + so many female Saudi followers immediately un-followed me or blocked me. Is it wrong to tell Saudies that a man -wearing nothing but a piece of cloth with no underwear- would get a turn on when he sees a hot police woman with full make-up?

Why don't the security of the Holy Mosque look like this?



Or this?



Or even this??



No makeup..full professional..just service.

You know who gets turned on (btw, turn on is not the same as erection - there is a whole journey of self-control in between)? The men who have not interacted with women, have lived in a culture with gender separations, and have not learned to control their thoughts in the presence of women in a social environments -- exactly the type of men that Saudi Arabia produces by separating the genders, leading to the very issues it tries to solve by putting women behind the walls.

Look at the beaches in western countries. Do you see men with big erections walking around in their swim shorts among bikini clad women?

Ironically, if men get erections in kaaba, that says a lot more about power of carnal desires than supposedly the most powerful god. I mean, if allah can't control the feeble penis, how can he even begin to control the more powerful vagina?