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RE: Noteworthy News
November 9, 2021 at 10:45 pm
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(November 9, 2021 at 6:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 9, 2021 at 5:26 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The world would collapse if we abandoned idiots during a pandemic, and, frankly, that's the entire point of public health - that someone who actually knows something is helping people who either don't or can't.
I’m more than ok with society creating institutions to help people who can’t or won’t help themselves, but I do think a line needs to be drawn to exclude those people who are actively working to damage that society. You know - Nazis, white supremacists, anti-vaxxers, people trying to bring back disco, etc.
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The problem is who gets to decide who is and who isn't doing that. Anti-vaxxers? Fuck 'em. Smokers? Fuck 'em. Fat people? Fuck 'em. Drug addicts? Fuck 'em. Where does it end?
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 9, 2021 at 11:03 pm
(November 9, 2021 at 10:45 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (November 9, 2021 at 6:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m more than ok with society creating institutions to help people who can’t or won’t help themselves, but I do think a line needs to be drawn to exclude those people who are actively working to damage that society. You know - Nazis, white supremacists, anti-vaxxers, people trying to bring back disco, etc.
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The problem is who gets to decide who is and who isn't doing that. Anti-vaxxers? Fuck 'em. Smokers? Fuck 'em. Fat people? Fuck 'em. Drug addicts? Fuck 'em. Where does it end?
Smokers are more closely related to anti vaxxers for sure. There was a time when smoking in bars or restaurants were were accepted, and smokers fought back. They were wrong, because their second hand smoke did have an affect on those around them. But fat "people" and "drug addicts, that is not spreadable. Smoking in most businesses is banned, as it should be. Drinking and driving has also had a long history of being illegal.
"My body my choice" does not apply to masks or vaccines. You can spread a virus, you can not spread a pregnancy. Seat belts and air bags have for the past 30 years been standard law for all vehicles.
I smoke and I drink. But I don't smoke around people who don't. And I don't call people who don't drink assholes or wimps. A virus doesn't give one fuck about left or right or politics. It will kill someone, anyone. So the more people wear masks, for now, and the more people get a vaccine, the quicker we can all get past this pandemic.
If one can accept it is wrong to drink and drive,
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 9, 2021 at 11:07 pm
(November 9, 2021 at 10:45 pm)Angrboda Wrote: (November 9, 2021 at 6:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’m more than ok with society creating institutions to help people who can’t or won’t help themselves, but I do think a line needs to be drawn to exclude those people who are actively working to damage that society. You know - Nazis, white supremacists, anti-vaxxers, people trying to bring back disco, etc.
Boru
The problem is who gets to decide who is and who isn't doing that. Anti-vaxxers? Fuck 'em. Smokers? Fuck 'em. Fat people? Fuck 'em. Drug addicts? Fuck 'em. Where does it end? The only difference is the latter three aren't spreading a highly contagious disease that they could easily stop by taking a simple injection.
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 10, 2021 at 2:01 pm
Dr. Oz is running for Pennsylvania Senate on the Republican side - but where are those Republicans who say that that is impossible because, as a Muslim, he can't swear on the Bible?
https://freebeacon.com/politics/dr-oz-pr...nate-race/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 10, 2021 at 2:10 pm
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Mitch McConnel was down the way from me saying the quiet parts out loud while he toured narya capitals combo tax scam/political ad greenhouse... while preening over Biden's BIF bill he just voted for.
Quote:I'm surprised we even got a C. We have a lot of infrastructure needs, both in rural areas and with big bridges. It's a godsend for Kentucky.
-referring to the american society of civil engineers giving our state the kind of grade you give a kid who doesn't put in the work..but you don't want to punish for it because he just didn't come from good stock and couldn't catch a break. Remind me buddy...who's been in charge here for the last 16 years or so...?
Meanwhile, just up across the river in Ohio, jd vance, who left the board of appharvest, is tapping out of the debates and refuses to file his financial disclosure forms as his numbers tank in the most hilariously predictable way imaginable.
The whole region is deep red, and they've certainly been complaining about the giant dick up their asses making life extremely uncomfortable...but they seem to be confused as to just whose dick that is.....
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 11, 2021 at 11:15 am
Electing a smiling bigot who lied to their faces..all the way into office...wasn;t enough for angry virginians. They're now advocating literal book burning..after finding what they believe to be naughty books(which are not naughty books in mere reality)....on a high school digital library.
Let the dumb sink in.
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 11, 2021 at 12:01 pm
(November 11, 2021 at 11:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Electing a smiling bigot who lied to their faces..all the way into office...wasn;t enough for angry virginians. They're now advocating literal book burning..after finding what they believe to be naughty books(which are not naughty books in mere reality)....on a high school digital library.
Let the dumb sink in.
It’s a poor library indeed (digital or not) that doesn’t have something in it to offend everyone.
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 11, 2021 at 12:30 pm
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That may very well be, and we all know what snowflakes rightwing nuts are. However. The books aren't even what these nuts think they are..and they're on the cloud. What are they gonna do, performatively burn binders full of blank paper while dancing around the flame like a coven of witches wailing and gnashing their teeth about the poor babbies?
I'm better than half onboard, I'd light the fire myself just to watch the spectacle of these loons torching whatevers left of their own dignity.
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 11, 2021 at 12:53 pm
(November 11, 2021 at 12:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That may very well be, and we all know what snowflakes rightwing nuts are. However. The books aren't even what these nuts think they are..and they're on the cloud. What are they gonna do, performatively burn binders full of blank paper while dancing around the flame like a coven of witches wailing and gnashing their teeth about the poor babbies?
I'm better than half onboard, I'd light the fire myself just to watch the spectacle of these loons torching whatevers left of their own dignity.
Yeah, I get that they think they can burn digital books in a traditional Nazi-esque bonfire. I was simply making a point about libraries in general.
But thanks all the same for taking time to explain the painfully obvious.
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RE: Noteworthy News
November 11, 2021 at 1:10 pm
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It's bleedover man. Things I used to think were completely obvious and take for granted have been proven to be my unrepresentative assumptions about my fellow man. To your point, and without the bleedover..and even though it probably does represent a comment on the sad state of affairs in american public schools..I'd be surprised if there actually were a book left in them which legitimately offends anyone, let alone for the reasons they so often claim. The nuts in question have never cracked a page, and don't know what's in these books, which, again obvious..is demonstrated by the content of their bitching.
We produced some of the most subversive authors in western culture...people who made it their mission to cleverly offend...but that's not even remotely close to what we're known for anymore. I was catching up on real time last night, and bill maher cracked a great joke. About joe bidens "this is the us of a, what are we doing, dammit" - because he was old enough to remember when it was weird to think of america as a giant fuckup.
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