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Noteworthy News
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(July 20, 2022 at 7:17 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: So I just watched the first 30 seconds of the video that Boru didn't like, to see what his problem with it might be. AJW, the author, said that people shouldn't be burning things down or celebrating the person before all the facts are in. Sounds reasonable to me that protestors might wait until some facts are known first before rioting, and AJW is not making a blanket statement here about all police shootings or saying that it's fine that George Floyd was killed or whatever other nonsense Boru might want you to believe with his concrete claims of racism after watching 30 seconds of video. AJWs point was, I believe, that in cases such as this one, as well as cases such as the Mike Brown one where we were fed lies about "hands up, don't shoot", which was a complete fabrication, that maybe people should be a little more sure about what they're protesting about and actually know the details before going off.

‘…we could be on the cusp of another Black Lives Matter myth that puts all innocent people in the area in danger. Because as we well know, it is genuinely legitimate civil rights activism to destroy neighboring businesses, burn things down, trash your area…’

Since only a tiny, tiny fraction of BLM posters engaged in that behaviour, it is racist - pure and simple - to attribute that behaviour to the entire movement. He’s a racist, and you’re a racist for promoting his racist viewpoint.

Boru
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(July 20, 2022 at 7:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 20, 2022 at 7:17 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: So I just watched the first 30 seconds of the video that Boru didn't like, to see what his problem with it might be. AJW, the author, said that people shouldn't be burning things down or celebrating the person before all the facts are in. Sounds reasonable to me that protestors might wait until some facts are known first before rioting, and AJW is not making a blanket statement here about all police shootings or saying that it's fine that George Floyd was killed or whatever other nonsense Boru might want you to believe with his concrete claims of racism after watching 30 seconds of video. AJWs point was, I believe, that in cases such as this one, as well as cases such as the Mike Brown one where we were fed lies about "hands up, don't shoot", which was a complete fabrication, that maybe people should be a little more sure about what they're protesting about and actually know the details before going off.

‘…we could be on the cusp of another Black Lives Matter myth that puts all innocent people in the area in danger. Because as we well know, it is genuinely legitimate civil rights activism to destroy neighboring businesses, burn things down, trash your area…’

Since only a tiny, tiny fraction of BLM posters engaged in that behaviour, it is racist - pure and simple - to attribute that behaviour to the entire movement. He’s a racist, and you’re a racist for promoting his racist viewpoint.

Boru
And when we mean tiny we mean tiny to a point of almost unotable smallness that right-wing goons like AJW  will use to blemish the whole movement with even if he won't come right out and say it. His whole agenda is to sow doubt by showing a few examples of the worst and that alone will tend to push people to exaggeration while giving him plausible deniability when he's called out.
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Now in the news that isn't just IA splattering Reich-wing garbage all over the forum 

The Battle for the next British PM has reached its zenith and there are only two contenders and it's depressing either way.


On one hand,  you have Rishi Sunak former Chief secretary to the Treasury and Chancellor of the Exchequer whose handling of the cost of living crisis has exposed him as a borderline sociopath whose policy seems to be "fuck the poor" he's also married to a to a tax dodging billionaire... Dodgy 





Then you have Lizz Truss former most noted as a Foreign Secretary who doesn't seem to know how to engage in diplomacy.





Either way, it's looking grim  Dodgy
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Chris Rufo has ridden his CRT gravy train for all that it was worth.  He's now moving on to groomers.   It's going to be a hit.

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(July 20, 2022 at 7:17 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  AJWs point was, I believe, that in cases such as this one, as well as cases such as the Mike Brown one where we were fed lies about "hands up, don't shoot", which was a complete fabrication, that maybe people should be a little more sure about what they're protesting about and actually know the details before going off.

Oh yeah, sure.  I can help you with that.  People are protesting the alarming rate of extra-judicial killings of brown people, and the tendency for those involved to avoid any meaningful consequence for their actions.  Paid leave has been the standard sentence for a man found to have killed a man otj as a police officer in the united states.  In some counties, states, or years, the cops even managed to kill more people than the criminals - which is something that had to be independently researched, because the cops are not obligated to track or keep that data, nor is there anyone or any agency that they must officially report it to.

This seems like it might be a problem. As in...all of it.

Beyond that, though, it seems to me like this is advice you might want to take more to heart yourself - as you invariably show up whenever you've found some new racist bullshit that you feel compelled to share. Maybe, be a little more sure about the details..and what you're protesting? If you're just super duper committed to this, then get better material, from some other set of sources. Additionally, conflating something with a religion is lazy criticism even if it did have similarities to a religion.

I can't imagine why a people who religiously believed that black lives matter would be a bad thing, and it's obvious that the cops haven't heard that good news.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(July 21, 2022 at 9:25 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(July 20, 2022 at 7:17 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote:  AJWs point was, I believe, that in cases such as this one, as well as cases such as the Mike Brown one where we were fed lies about "hands up, don't shoot", which was a complete fabrication, that maybe people should be a little more sure about what they're protesting about and actually know the details before going off.

Oh yeah, sure.  I can help you with that.  People are protesting the alarming rate of extra-judicial killings of brown people, and the tendency for those involved to avoid any meaningful consequence for their actions.  Paid leave has been the standard sentence for a man found to have killed a man otj as a police officer in the united states.  In some counties, states, or years, the cops even managed to kill more people than the criminals - which is something that had to be independently researched, because the cops are not obligated to track or keep that data, nor is there anyone or any agency that they must officially report it to.

This seems like it might be a problem.  As in...all of it.

Beyond that, though, it seems to me like this is advice you might want to take more to heart yourself - as you invariably show up whenever you've found some new racist bullshit that you feel compelled to share.  Maybe, be a little more sure about the details..and what you're protesting?  If you're just super duper committed to this, then get better material, from some other set of sources.  Additionally, conflating something with a religion is lazy criticism even if it did have similarities to a religion.

I can't imagine why a people who religiously believed that black lives matter would be a bad thing, and it's obvious that the cops haven't heard that good news.

Firstly, to you and Boru, an ideology is not a race, and most black people don't want to defund the police, so I debunked you there, and most social justice rioters are caucasian, so again, not racist to criticize people of all races for going off before the details of a case are in. You're getting awful close to the territory of people who say Kyle Rittenhouse, a caucasian male, racistly killed 2 other caucasian males. Logic, I know.

No, this black life ceased to matter when he shot up his neighbours apartment, remained armed, and refused to give up himself. At that point, you need to be put down for the good of the neighbours, and that man decided that his own life didn't matter. I'm aware that he was mentally ill, but that's not a good enough reason to put his neighbours in further harm. The right course of action was taken. So no. You're wrong. Life doesn't always matter. Sometimes a rabid dog just needs to be put down, and there's no shame in it. If he was unarmed and shot, I'd be here saying that nothing any victim of his says justifies what the police did to him, but that is not the case here. So yeah, Nudge, being religious and taking the so called woke pill to the point where people are saying OJ was framed, Jussie Smollett was framed, and that the guy in this case should have been treated with kid gloves even though he tried to kill people and remained armed, that is problematic, because your movement is starting to morph more and more into the Black Hebrew Israelites by the day.
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1. Weather or not most black people agree with defunding or not has nothing to do with you being a racist or not.

2. You're not thinking of white people when thinking of BLM rioters nor are you pushing that notion. No one is buying that.

3. You can racistly kill white people if you are white. But you're not framing BLM as a white movement so don't even try that trick.

So no this isn't about idealogy and no one is buying that it is  Dodgy

As for the rest of your nonsense, it's not even worth addressing as it's totally unhinged  Dodgy

Consider yourself refuted
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(July 21, 2022 at 10:56 pm)Helios Wrote: 1. Your not talking about idealogy you are talking about race and no one buys the mental gymnastics you are pulling to try and say otherwise 

2. Your second statement is just a jumbled collection of nonsense

So you fail again  Hehe

The only race I talked about is the race of the victim and her children, who happen to be black, so I'm unsure what you're referring to here.

Let's put it this way. It's great to be against human trafficking and concerned. It's ok to want to protest about it. But when you take those good intentions and go protest Ping Pong pizza because you believe there's a sex dungeon in the basement, your good intentions are kind of just backfiring because you're crying wolf over and over, and you're not thinking things through and using logic. The organizations who work to stop human trafficking have said as much. The whackjobs are only hurting things, not helping. This is pretty much the mirror image of what these social justice protestors were doing in the story I brought up. They were basically looking for a sex dungeon, and a real victim came out to them and showed them how dumb they really sounded.

Nudge tries to make it sound good to be almost religious in caring about social justice. I agree that the general rule should be that lives matter and human rights matter, and I believe this almost religiously. That's not the bad part though. The bad part is being so religious that you throw logic completely out of the window, and start looking for sex dungeons or calling Jussie Smollett low key noble for faking hate crimes, because if successfully pulled off, it could have benefited the movement. Caring about social justice almost as much as religious people care about their beliefs? Sure. That's great. Going off the deep end though? That's a different story.
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1. Lol sure you don't get it  Dodgy

2. No Pizza Gate and BLM protestors are not even remotely the same and you have to have some serious brain damage to even compare the two and the only people who will think BLM is crying wolf are people who were against the organization, to begin with. 

So another failed attempt you are really bad at this  Dodgy
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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(July 21, 2022 at 11:36 pm)Helios Wrote: 1. Lol sure you don't get it  Dodgy

2. No Pizza Gate and BLM protestors are not even remotely the same and you have to have some serious brain damage to even compare the two and the only people who will think BLM is crying wolf are people who were against the organization, to begin with. 

So another failed attempt you are really bad at this  Dodgy

You already agreed that they were crying wolf (the particular protestors in the story I brought up).
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