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Do humans have inherent value?
#11
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 12, 2021 at 10:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: And if yes, can their actions nullify that value?

I want to read your opinions.

No.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#12
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 13, 2021 at 12:32 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 12, 2021 at 10:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: And if yes, can their actions nullify that value?

I want to read your opinions.

No.

Explain please
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#13
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 12, 2021 at 10:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: (1)"Do humans have inherent value?"

And if yes, (2)Can their actions nullify that value?

I want to read your opinions.


(1) Yes. For certain definitions of 'Value'

(2) No. Again depending on the above definition of 'Value' given.

You're welcome.

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#14
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 13, 2021 at 12:54 am)Macoleco Wrote:
(June 13, 2021 at 12:32 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: No.

Explain please

We value each other and ourselves, generally. But value is a judgement. I don’t think we have any sort of objective, intrinsic value.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#15
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 13, 2021 at 1:06 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 13, 2021 at 12:54 am)Macoleco Wrote: Explain please

We value each other and ourselves, generally. But value is a judgement. I don’t think we have any sort of objective, intrinsic value.

What's the market price for calcium or phosphorous nowdays?

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#16
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
Fucking dipshit with a nine-toed woman.
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#17
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 13, 2021 at 1:06 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 13, 2021 at 12:54 am)Macoleco Wrote: Explain please

We value each other and ourselves, generally. But value is a judgement. I don’t think we have any sort of objective, intrinsic value.

We do... We humans are made of meat! nom nom ....
And I won't even go into what value a necrophiliac will place onto a human's physical body! lol

Sadly, what we really value has no intrinsic substance and only exists in our heads! Go figure ...
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#18
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 12, 2021 at 10:36 pm)Macoleco Wrote: And if yes, can their actions nullify that value?

I want to read your opinions.

It depends on what you mean by value.


At most fundamental level, other humans have value simply because ascribing value to other humans tend to indirectly makes your own existence somewhat safer.     So at minimum, their value is your own slightly improved safety.
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#19
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
Would you say that someone who does great damage to humanity has value? And if not, would the world be a better place without them?

Therefore, would you, rationally, justify their death, not only due to the harm they do, but also due their lack of value within society?
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#20
RE: Do humans have inherent value?
(June 13, 2021 at 2:16 am)Macoleco Wrote: Would you say that someone who does great damage to humanity has value? And if not, would the world be a better place without them?

Therefore, would you, rationally, justify their death, not only due to the harm they do, but also due their lack of value within society?

I think the question begs oversimplification.     But it is not so simple.   One could say protecting any human’s life has a value of its own, if only for selfish consideration that ascribing such value makes it more likely for others to protect you as well.     So the value of human life is the same as the value of protecting that life.

But that is different from saying is a individual person’s net value must still be regarded as positive even if he would use that life to make himself a bane to humanity.

Here is where legal niceties come in.  How to kill a life that clear hurts more than it helps without denying it helps to protect any arbitrary human.
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