Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?

[Pat Mustard]

tackattack made the very good point that the ‘PSA: Rape Apologetics’ is veering off topic. Since this goes against both the spirit and the letter of [Serious] threads, feel free to have that discussion here.

My answer: yup.

Boru

Slavery, misogyny and other unjust acts or mankind's inhumanity to mankind stem from the generative heart of mankind since the fall! 

And yet, despite this, slavery is endorsed, encouraged and even mandated by the "god" of the bible. Strange how a perfect being can blame his creations for the faults he created within them, the faults he also explicitly orders them to act upon?

Methinks you haven't the first iota of an inkling of a clue about your own religion.

[Mercyvessel]

This stuff actually makes your case look even worst 

You have not yet understood.

[no one]

"The fall" is one of the most hilarious things I have ever heard.

Let's see, the all powerful, all knowing, ever being knew that the forbidden fruit was going to be eaten even before the garden was created, yet it did it any way. Sloppy, sloppy management.

[The Architect Of Fate]

somehow there's always a way to justify such evils using the Bible. "Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair"--how did these people justify the actual ownership of human beings? They treated them well, right? Food, water, shelter, structure?

"Masters". What an interesting word.

Indeed kind slavery is still slavery

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You have not yet understood.

No it's you who has not understood

[no one]

Master can have good connotations to it.
"A master at their craft."

Take me for instance, (I seem to be a natural though)

I started as a fledgling baiter, but within 48 hours or so, I was a master baiter.

You can achieve your dreams too.

[Huggy Bear]

somehow there's always a way to justify such evils using the Bible. "Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair"--how did these people justify the actual ownership of human beings? They treated them well, right? Food, water, shelter, structure?

"Masters". What an interesting word.

Let me ask you something, What's the difference between being a bond-servant and being a serf under a feudal system?

Lord is synonymous with master...

[Rev. Rye]

For the record, that phrase is often rendered something along the lines of "Masters, give your slaves what is just and fair." While you might find a difference between a "bond-servant" and a slave, the original Greek word used doesn't seem to.

Also, one other passage I've read being used to justify slavery (and more specifically, to convince slaves to stay complacent in the face of oppression), Ephesians 6:5: "Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with respect for authority, and with a sincere heart [seeking to please them], as [service] to Christ—." It's worth noting that, a few verses later, Paul tells the masters to reciprocate, and the same people who tried to pacify the slaves with that verse never seemed to use the following verse to admonish Massa for being a bit too hard on his slaves.

[Thumpalumpacus]

tackattack made the very good point that the ‘PSA: Rape Apologetics’ is veering off topic. Since this goes against both the spirit and the letter of [Serious] threads, feel free to have that discussion here.

My answer: yup.

Boru

Slavery, misogyny and other unjust acts or mankind's inhumanity to mankind stem from the generative heart of mankind since the fall! 

“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9

The aforementioned practices exist to this very day and have been and are perpetuated by a variety of people. "Before Kingdoms Can Change… Men's Hearts Must Change"

Human mistreatment of humans notwithstanding, GOD does not command injustice... He is the GOD of truth, love, justice, mercy! As time has progressed the record has been set straighter still and we are to "love our neighbors as ourselves" (Matthew 22:35-39), no matter what lot/station we have in life.  

Theoretically, if everyone did/were able to do this... whether one were the server or the served... would there be the extent of mistreatment and exploitation there is/has been? There is recognition that because of the human condition these "relationships" will arise - but there is to be mutual respect, not mistreatment, exploitation and murder! So no, the Holy Bible does not "support" such things, as we have evidently seen them done throughout history!

Look at the perpetrator/s of the injustice and their hearts (if one can) and thus, their personal motives... 

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Some of the what the Holy Bible harmoniously and pertinently states on the subject! (though there's more - for more intricate discussion):

“You shall neither mistreat a stranger nor oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." - Exodus 22:21 (Old Testament)

"Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven." - Colossians 4:1 (New Testament)

These verses alone prohibit - particularly anyone who professes the CHRIST - from mistreating anyone who may be found in such a situation or otherwise.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

tackattack made the very good point that the ‘PSA: Rape Apologetics’ is veering off topic. Since this goes against both the spirit and the letter of [Serious] threads, feel free to have that discussion here.

My answer: yup.

Boru

Slavery, misogyny and other unjust acts or mankind's inhumanity to mankind stem from the generative heart of mankind since the fall! 

“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9

The aforementioned practices exist to this very day and have been and are perpetuated by a variety of people. "Before Kingdoms Can Change… Men's Hearts Must Change"

Human mistreatment of humans notwithstanding, GOD does not command injustice... He is the GOD of truth, love, justice, mercy! As time has progressed the record has been set straighter still and we are to "love our neighbors as ourselves" (Matthew 22:35-39), no matter what lot/station we have in life.  

Theoretically, if everyone did/were able to do this... whether one were the server or the served... would there be the extent of mistreatment and exploitation there is/has been? There is recognition that because of the human condition these "relationships" will arise - but there is to be mutual respect, not mistreatment, exploitation and murder! So no, the Holy Bible does not "support" such things, as we have evidently seen them done throughout history!

Look at the perpetrator/s of the injustice and their hearts (if one can) and thus, their personal motives... 

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Some of the what the Holy Bible harmoniously and pertinently states on the subject! (though there's more - for more intricate discussion):

“You shall neither mistreat a stranger nor oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." - Exodus 22:21 (Old Testament)

"Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven." - Colossians 4:1 (New Testament)

These verses alone prohibit - particularly anyone who professes the CHRIST - from mistreating anyone who may be found in such a situation or otherwise.

Since you’re providing scripture, perhaps you could point out the verse(s) where God tells the Israelites not to own slaves.

I’ll wait.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

Let me ask you something, What's the difference between being a bond-servant and being a serf under a feudal system?

Lord is synonymous with master...

So your god is just as immoral as humans. Got it.