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The problem of the soul
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#91
RE: The problem of the soul
August 7, 2021 at 11:45 am
Quote:But I can punish you if you began the insult...

*indulgent chuckle* You can try.

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RE: The problem of the soul
August 7, 2021 at 12:00 pm (This post was last modified: August 7, 2021 at 12:01 pm by LadyForCamus.)
Can we say “ad hoc hypothesis” all together now?
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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 4:05 am (This post was last modified: August 8, 2021 at 4:10 am by Pat Mustard.)
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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 4:13 am (This post was last modified: August 8, 2021 at 4:14 am by The Grand Nudger.)
In fairness...there's nothing wrong with a god made of matter.  Gods must be made of something.  Why not matter?

Familiar matter, exotic matter, it hardly makes a difference.  Sure - there are a ton of other claims a person might want to make about a god that wouldn't work for matter - but who cares?  If everything were made of matter than god would be made of matter too, perforce.

I think that it's refreshing to find a believer who thinks that gods and souls are made of stuff that actually exists in the universe.
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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 4:22 am
(August 8, 2021 at 4:13 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: In fairness...there's nothing wrong with a god made of matter.  Gods must be made of something.  Why not matter?

Familiar matter, exotic matter, it hardly makes a difference.  Sure - there are a ton of other claims a person might want to make about a god that wouldn't work for matter - but who cares?  If everything were made of matter than god would be made of matter too, perforce.

I think that it's refreshing to find a believer who thinks that gods and souls are made of stuff that actually exists in the universe.

I don't object to the notions that gods can be made of matter. My objection is that Winter seems to think gods can be made of electrons and protons and still not be made of matter.

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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 4:29 am
He believes in magic. A thing can be made of matter and not-matter at the same time by magic. Wink
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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 8:49 am
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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 8:50 am
Seen this movie many times, though it was usually a Christian nutjob, not a Muslim.  Same dish, different flavor.  Winter, you are debating (arguing) with a bunch of science-loving heathens.  If you take the position that science is wrong about some very fundamental things, or that there is some sort of new science, or really anything not generally accepted as scientific consensus, then you are not going to be taken seriously.  It's a non-starter.  Just as if one of us went on an Islam forum and started arguing about some aspect of Islam while being ignorant of the Quran or some other aspect of the religion.  You can argue that the soul exists all day, but the moment you say something nutty like plasma is not matter, then you have lost the crowd.

I think there's more actual valid debate to be had in grand nudger's assertion.  Why can't god be made of matter?  Anyone here read the SF novel Calculating God, by Robert Sawyer.  Not the best novel but a decent read with a decent premise, that god is a matter-based entity that survives the collapse of the universe and has a hand in creating the next one.
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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 9:57 am
(August 8, 2021 at 8:49 am)WinterHold Wrote: The poor poop doesn't know what discussions mean 

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RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 10:13 am (This post was last modified: August 8, 2021 at 10:15 am by WinterHold.)
(August 8, 2021 at 9:57 am)Nomad Wrote:
(August 8, 2021 at 8:49 am)WinterHold Wrote: The poor poop doesn't know what discussions mean 

Protip: trying to describe others doesn't mean that you do so by looking at yourself in the mirror.

? who the hell said we are speaking about "how you look"?
I'm speaking about what "your soul is". Your soul is poop.

About the way you look, your color, your height, the way you look, is all irrelevant to me. Your soul; mate, that's what I care about.
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