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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2021 at 12:50 pm by Mercyvessel.)
(August 8, 2021 at 10:42 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I really really like to have a theist's perspective in any conversation, but you are like a spambot, mercyvessel. Drich's posts amounted to more than yours do, and (you may not know) that's a low bar. Why don't you try to answer objections to the points you make? At least let us know you aren't biblebot30000.
The Bible can be made to say anything. Universal love. Repress all Jews. You name it. I don't mind if you back up what you say with Bible verses (though I'll find the Bible verses part of your argument questionable)... but PLEASE, don't write a bunch of Bible verses as your entire point. C'mon. Please try to understand that we don't take Bible verses as authoritative... THEN make your point.
I am truly Christian and the Bible is my lawbook; GOD is my Lawgiver! (Isaiah 33:22)
Professionally, I studied law and I have a imperative penchant to quote sources of law and authority (as I would site the law - case law or otherwise - in a legal brief or memorandum, I quote the the holy word of GOD on pertinent subjects because I firmly believe and know that it is the inspired word of GOD that hasn't and doesn't fail!).
How does your apparent unbelief and/or your reluctance to even study / analyze holy Scripture shared make me "spam bot" - because I necessarily corroborate my positions with the written word?
I WILL "write" anything that I believe responds to, or is pertinent to a point/s at issue!
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 12:42 pm
(August 7, 2021 at 10:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Bart asks a question: if God wanted us to have his words (Bible) why did he allow people to change them so that we don't know which are his and which are made up by humans?
God made a stupid plan when he expected people to know him only by the Bible because he also let this huge mishap to happen, so now we don't have his words.
Even believers in historical Jesus don't know which words are his and which were added later. Some are known to be later additions, like the story of an adulterous woman, but none can be said with certainty to be said by Jesus.
If this alleged god is perfect, there would be no need for the word "version" or "translation".
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 12:46 pm
Holy scripture? Did you mean horse shit?
The babble is a collection fairy tales. Concocted by a bunch of simple minded, arrogant clodsl
How any sane person could honestly believe it, is mind boggling.
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 12:58 pm
(August 14, 2021 at 12:46 pm)no one Wrote: Holy scripture? Did you mean horse shit?
The babble is a collection fairy tales. Concocted by a bunch of simple minded, arrogant clodsl
How any sane person could honestly believe it, is mind boggling.
Were you, like I, to actually taste and see that the Lord GOD is good - by His grace... you wouldn't ask these sort of foolish questions.
Were you to have witnessed the power of GOD and His holy word to save from certain death... you wouldn't be apparently irreverent.
"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew 12:36-37
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 1:05 pm
(August 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: (August 8, 2021 at 10:42 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I really really like to have a theist's perspective in any conversation, but you are like a spambot, mercyvessel. Drich's posts amounted to more than yours do, and (you may not know) that's a low bar. Why don't you try to answer objections to the points you make? At least let us know you aren't biblebot30000.
The Bible can be made to say anything. Universal love. Repress all Jews. You name it. I don't mind if you back up what you say with Bible verses (though I'll find the Bible verses part of your argument questionable)... but PLEASE, don't write a bunch of Bible verses as your entire point. C'mon. Please try to understand that we don't take Bible verses as authoritative... THEN make your point.
I am truly Christian and the Bible is my lawbook; GOD is my Lawgiver! (Isaiah 33:22)
Professionally, I studied law and I have a imperative penchant to quote sources of law and authority (as I would site the law - case law or otherwise - in a legal brief or memorandum, I quote the the holy word of GOD on pertinent subjects because I firmly believe and know that it is the inspired word of GOD that hasn't and doesn't fail!).
How does your apparent unbelief and/or your reluctance to even study / analyze holy Scripture shared make me "spam bot" - because I necessarily corroborate my positions with the written word?
I WILL "write" anything that I believe responds to, or is pertinent to a point/s at issue!
Most people who have studied law know that 1) Biblical law is irrelevant and 2) the word is 'cite', not 'site'.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 1:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2021 at 1:12 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(August 14, 2021 at 12:58 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: Were you, like I, to actually taste and see that the Lord GOD is good - by His grace...
You must be living in some parallel universe when you see some God and his goodness - or do you maybe think that holocausts, fires, floods, diseases, earthquakes, famine are good?
Btw, here is the video from the original post
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 4:42 pm
(August 14, 2021 at 1:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 14, 2021 at 12:37 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: I am truly Christian and the Bible is my lawbook; GOD is my Lawgiver! (Isaiah 33:22)
Professionally, I studied law and I have a imperative penchant to quote sources of law and authority (as I would site the law - case law or otherwise - in a legal brief or memorandum, I quote the the holy word of GOD on pertinent subjects because I firmly believe and know that it is the inspired word of GOD that hasn't and doesn't fail!).
How does your apparent unbelief and/or your reluctance to even study / analyze holy Scripture shared make me "spam bot" - because I necessarily corroborate my positions with the written word?
I WILL "write" anything that I believe responds to, or is pertinent to a point/s at issue!
Most people who have studied law know that 1) Biblical law is irrelevant and 2) the word is 'cite', not 'site'.
Boru
These are the sort of pointless matters that you and some others appear to enjoy discussing... correcting typos / grammatical errors... you know what I meant yet would rather distract with such a trivial point - when we are talking about issues concerning life and death... pity.
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 4:56 pm
So it was just horse shit. And boy, oh boy, are you full of it.
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 14, 2021 at 4:59 pm
(August 14, 2021 at 4:42 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: (August 14, 2021 at 1:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Most people who have studied law know that 1) Biblical law is irrelevant and 2) the word is 'cite', not 'site'.
Boru
These are the sort of pointless matters that you and some others appear to enjoy discussing... correcting typos / grammatical errors... you know what I meant yet would rather distract with such a trivial point - when we are talking about issues concerning life and death... pity.
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In all fairness, I did address your main point first, which is that Biblical laws and arguments are irrelevant. While you can certainly cite things like Levitical law and the beatitudes, judges and juries are prohibited from taking these into consideration.
But I’d be interested to know in what way and to what extent you’ve ‘studied law’.
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RE: Why did God allow his words to be changed?
August 15, 2021 at 10:14 am
(August 14, 2021 at 4:42 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: (August 14, 2021 at 1:05 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Most people who have studied law know that 1) Biblical law is irrelevant and 2) the word is 'cite', not 'site'.
Boru
These are the sort of pointless matters that you and some others appear to enjoy discussing... correcting typos / grammatical errors... you know what I meant yet would rather distract with such a trivial point - when we are talking about issues concerning life and death... pity.
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So you favour slavery and human sacrifice as good things?
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