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U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
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RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 12, 2021 at 8:28 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 12, 2021 at 8:19 am)WinterHold Wrote: Smart; editing your post after days so I never catch you doing it  Hilarious 
Essentially you deleted the post which as exposing what America is >< btw you're helping my cause more more by your actions; so grow up please.

Let's repeat it:

Why is 9/11 terrorism, while the nukes against Japan arent ?

That post was not edited. If it had been, there would be a little notice reading ‘This Post was last modified’, etc.

For purposes of this forum (and the deletion of your OP), the 9-11 attacks were carried out by a known terrorist group, while the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were carried out by a legitimate nation state. You could, I suppose, make the case that the nuclear attacks constitute a war crime. But terrorism? Nah.

Boru

But we heard for decades that the "Taliban" are terrorists; but eventually -and pretty surprisingly- the USA began "negotiating" with them:

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Quote:Qatar in 2013, with the approval of the US and the Afghan government, allowed the Afghan Taliban to set up a diplomatic and political office inside the country.[455][456] This was done in order to facilitate peace negotiations and with the support of other countries.[457][455]
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#cite_note-aa.com,8Jul17-455]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#United_States

I think the U.S is confusing who is the real "terrorists" and who are the "freedom fighters" who stood like mountains against the USSR followed by the invasion of western countries. The Taliban -for example- were the terrorists of yesterday in the eyes of the U.S who became "not really terrorists" and were even allowed to open diplomatic offices in countries like Qatar !

Then just like I can't call "nuclear attacks" terrorism; you must also admit -considering the 2003 Iraq invasion which turned out to be a scandal for WMDs that dont exist and the ranking of the Taliban as terrorists to come back after decades and admit they arent and deserve to open diplomatic offices- to be a "loose ; ambiguous charge by the U.S"; and better: "the American government uses the loose, ambiguous term "terrorism" to stain its foes or anybody it doesn't like", which is quite disgusting, outrageous and a low act if you ask me; satanic to the core. Hundreds of thousands died in the worst ways because of the U.S actions.
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#52
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 14, 2021 at 8:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: the American government uses the loose, ambiguous term "terrorism" to stain its foes or anybody it doesn't like

Mmm, no, every nation in the world calls the bombing of Hiroshima a war action, only you call it terrorism. Nor did the American government call Japanese or Nazi soldiers terrorists although it didn't like them.
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#53
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
Quote:I think the U.S is confusing who is the real "terrorists" and who are the "freedom fighters" who stood like mountains against the USSR followed by the invasion of western countries. The Taliban -for example- were the terrorists of yesterday in the eyes of the U.S who became "not really terrorists" and were even allowed to open diplomatic offices in countries like Qatar !
The Taliban are a bunch of cowardly thugs who throw acid in the faces of defenseless girls for wanting to learn to read


Quote:Then just like I can't call "nuclear attacks" terrorism; you must also admit -considering the 2003 Iraq invasion which turned out to be a scandal for WMDs that dont exist and the ranking of the Taliban as terrorists to come back after decades and admit they arent and deserve to open diplomatic offices- to be a "loose ; ambiguous charge by the U.S"; and better: "the American government uses the loose, ambiguous term "terrorism" to stain its foes or anybody it doesn't like", which is quite disgusting, outrageous and a low act if you ask me; satanic to the core. Hundreds of thousands died in the worst ways because of the U.S actions.
The Bombing of Japan was war not Terrorism same as the Bitz was war not terrorism
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#54
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 15, 2021 at 12:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(August 14, 2021 at 8:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: the American government uses the loose, ambiguous term "terrorism" to stain its foes or anybody it doesn't like

Mmm, no, every nation in the world calls the bombing of Hiroshima a war action, only you call it terrorism. Nor did the American government call Japanese or Nazi soldiers terrorists although it didn't like them.

Actually Nuclear Weapons are "illegal weapons" since 2017 by the UN:

Quote: includes a comprehensive set of prohibitions on participating in any nuclear weapon activities. These include undertakings not to develop, test, produce, acquire, possess, stockpile, use or threaten to use nuclear weapons. The Treaty also prohibits the deployment of nuclear weapons on national territory and the provision of assistance to any State in the conduct of prohibited activities. States parties will be obliged to prevent and suppress any activity prohibited under the TPNW undertaken by persons or on territory under its jurisdiction or control. The Treaty also obliges States parties to provide adequate assistance to individuals affected by the use or testing of nuclear weapons, as well as to take necessary and appropriate measure of environmental remediation in areas under its jurisdiction or control contaminated as a result of activities related to the testing or use of nuclear weapons.

https://www.un.org/disarmament/wmd/nuclear/tpnw/
(official UN websites)



Quote:By its resolution 72/31 of 4 December 2017, the General Assembly requested the Secretary-General to render the necessary assistance and to provide such services as may be necessary to fulfil the tasks entrusted to him under the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. Under Article 19, the Secretary-General is designated as depository of the Treaty. He is also tasked with the transmission to the States Parties of declarations received pursuant to Article 2 of the Treaty and the convening of Meetings of States Parties and Review Conferences (Article 8).


Nuclear weapons are internationally banned weapons; used only by the backward and savage armies that has its mind stuck in the dark ages still.

This comment of mine throws your comment, and Helios comment to the garbage; you backward savages.
And here is some extra treat just for Trump's wing:

https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/46233/nuclear-weapons-illegal-treaty/


Quote:Nuclear arms are the most destructive, indiscriminate and monstrous weapons ever produced – but today, we can all celebrate a major milestone in the long march towards peace: the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW) is now part of international law!
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#55
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 15, 2021 at 5:30 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 12:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Mmm, no, every nation in the world calls the bombing of Hiroshima a war action, only you call it terrorism. Nor did the American government call Japanese or Nazi soldiers terrorists although it didn't like them.

Actually Nuclear Weapons are "illegal weapons" since 2017 by the UN:

Quote: includes a comprehensive set of prohibitions on participating in any nuclear weapon activities. These include undertakings not to develop, test, produce, acquire, possess, stockpile, use or threaten to use nuclear weapons. The Treaty also prohibits the deployment of nuclear weapons on national territory and the provision of assistance to any State in the conduct of prohibited activities. States parties will be obliged to prevent and suppress any activity prohibited under the TPNW undertaken by persons or on territory under its jurisdiction or control. The Treaty also obliges States parties to provide adequate assistance to individuals affected by the use or testing of nuclear weapons, as well as to take necessary and appropriate measure of environmental remediation in areas under its jurisdiction or control contaminated as a result of activities related to the testing or use of nuclear weapons.

https://www.un.org/disarmament/wmd/nuclear/tpnw/
(official UN websites)



Quote:By its resolution 72/31 of 4 December 2017, the General Assembly requested the Secretary-General to render the necessary assistance and to provide such services as may be necessary to fulfil the tasks entrusted to him under the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. Under Article 19, the Secretary-General is designated as depository of the Treaty. He is also tasked with the transmission to the States Parties of declarations received pursuant to Article 2 of the Treaty and the convening of Meetings of States Parties and Review Conferences (Article 8).


Nuclear weapons are internationally banned weapons; used only by the backward and savage armies that has its mind stuck in the dark ages still.

This comment of mine throws your comment, and Helios comment to the garbage; you backward savages.
And here is some extra treat just for Trump's wing:

https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/46233/nuclear-weapons-illegal-treaty/


Quote:Nuclear arms are the most destructive, indiscriminate and monstrous weapons ever produced – but today, we can all celebrate a major milestone in the long march towards peace: the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW) is now part of international law!

The fine folks at Greenpeace are overstating the importance of the TPNW. How much good is a treaty banning nukes when NO nuclear-armed state is signatory to it?

Boru
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#56
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 15, 2021 at 5:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 5:30 am)WinterHold Wrote: Actually Nuclear Weapons are "illegal weapons" since 2017 by the UN:


https://www.un.org/disarmament/wmd/nuclear/tpnw/
(official UN websites)





Nuclear weapons are internationally banned weapons; used only by the backward and savage armies that has its mind stuck in the dark ages still.

This comment of mine throws your comment, and Helios comment to the garbage; you backward savages.
And here is some extra treat just for Trump's wing:

https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/46233/nuclear-weapons-illegal-treaty/

The fine folks at Greenpeace are overstating the importance of the TPNW. How much good is a treaty banning nukes when NO nuclear-armed state is signatory to it?

Boru

There are weapons far more destructive to "demons" that use atomic weapons.
Just like Atom bombs were created "out of a glimpse of thought in Einstein's mind"; and anti-nuclear would also be created.
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#57
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 15, 2021 at 5:30 am)WinterHold Wrote: Actually Nuclear Weapons are "illegal weapons" since 2017 by the UN:


Nuclear weapons are internationally banned weapons; used only by the backward and savage armies that has its mind stuck in the dark ages still.

Hiroshima/Nagasaki: 1945
Banning of nuclear weapons: 2017
Think
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#58
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 15, 2021 at 5:54 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 15, 2021 at 5:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The fine folks at Greenpeace are overstating the importance of the TPNW. How much good is a treaty banning nukes when NO nuclear-armed state is signatory to it?

Boru

There are weapons far more destructive to "demons" that use atomic weapons.
Just like Atom bombs were created "out of a glimpse of thought in Einstein's mind"; and anti-nuclear would also be created.

Whut?

Boru
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#59
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
Quote:Nuclear weapons are internationally banned weapons; used only by the backward and savage armies that has its mind stuck in the dark ages still.
Lol yeah because the dark ages were well known for having  nuclear states  Dodgy

And from a person from a culture forever stuck in the 14th century calling us backward is fucking hilarious  Hehe
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#60
RE: U.S. reviews 9/11 documents for possible release
(August 14, 2021 at 8:45 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But we heard for decades that the "Taliban" are terrorists; but eventually -and pretty surprisingly- the USA began "negotiating" with them:

I think you're forgetting that the original reason the US invaded Afghanistan was to destroy terrorist training camps and then it sort of morphed into a campaign to rid the country of the Taliban because of the way it treated the citizens and its support of terrorism.  I'm not actually sure about the Taliban's designation.  Originally it was a sort of "government" of Afghanistan after the Soviets were ousted.


Quote:I think the U.S is confusing who is the real "terrorists" and who are the "freedom fighters" who stood like mountains against the USSR followed by the invasion of western countries. The Taliban -for example- were the terrorists of yesterday in the eyes of the U.S who became "not really terrorists" and were even allowed to open diplomatic offices in countries like Qatar !

The Taliban had nothing to do with "standing tall" against the Soviets.  They weren't even in the country until much later.

Once the Soviets withdrew, US interest in Afghanistan slowly decreased over the following four years, much of it administered through the DoD Office of Humanitarian Assistance, under the then Director of HA, George M. Dykes III. With the first years of the Clinton Administration in Washington, DC, all aid ceased. The US decided not to help with reconstruction of the country, instead handing the interests of the country over to US allies Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Pakistan quickly took advantage of this opportunity and forged relations with warlords and later the Taliban, to secure trade interests and routes. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War


Quote:Then just like I can't call "nuclear attacks" terrorism; you must also admit -considering the 2003 Iraq invasion which turned out to be a scandal for WMDs that dont exist and the ranking of the Taliban as terrorists to come back after decades and admit they arent and deserve to open diplomatic offices- to be a "loose ; ambiguous charge by the U.S"; and better: "the American government uses the loose, ambiguous term "terrorism" to stain its foes or anybody it doesn't like", which is quite disgusting, outrageous and a low act if you ask me; satanic to the core. Hundreds of thousands died in the worst ways because of the U.S actions.

If your arguments were coherent you might be able to make a valid point.  I, and a lot of Americans, will quickly agree that the invasion of Iraq was a foolish politically motivated move and it's ultimately what cost Republicans control of congress.  So if you want to find agreement, bash that Iraq invasion all you want.  I'm right there with you.  Most of your other arguments are basically nonsense.

(August 15, 2021 at 5:54 am)WinterHold Wrote: There are weapons far more destructive to "demons" that use atomic weapons.
Just like Atom bombs were created "out of a glimpse of thought in Einstein's mind"; and anti-nuclear would also be created.

Wow, you are terrible at this.  Einstein played almost no part in the creation of nuclear weapons, or splitting the atom at all.  His famous equation E=Mc2 theoretically predicts the vast energy held within the nucleus of an atom, but the most he did was write a letter to FDR suggesting the US develop this technology before the Nazi's did.  You are thinking of Robert Oppenheimer.
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