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Catholic Church against Cesarean section
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RE: Catholic Church against Cesarean section
Religion... fucking up lives again Sad
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#22
RE: Catholic Church against Cesarean section
John Charles McQuaid fucked over Ireland for the best part of 80 years. This anti-cesarean crusade he adoptied was ome of those fuckings. It even affected my mother, though she didn't have a symphysiotomy forced on her.
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RE: Catholic Church against Cesarean section
Of COURSE the Church is against c-sections. It’s a procedure that helps women.

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RE: Catholic Church against Cesarean section
For the record, there was actually a fairly reasonable reason that the RCC was against C-sections: until fairly recently, it was a procedure with an extremely high mortality rate. For the longest time, it was so risky it was only performed when the mother was either dead or almost guaranteed to die anyway. Of course, by 1865, it would turn out to only have a mortality rate of 85%, but, frankly, after listening to four years of Catholic rationalizations against abortion, and how even when it’d be necessary to save the mother’s life, the doctors have to do everything in their power to do whatever procedure they need to do without harming the fetus, it only makes sense that they’d extend it to the Cesarean section. Of course, it looks like, these days, nobody, not even the Pope, gives a shit, probably because it’s proven a safe procedure for both the mother and her seed.

Also, the phrase “habitual incontinence” sounds strange to me, like the women who has their pelvises widened developed an intense desire to become ABDL and un-potty train themselves.
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RE: Catholic Church against Cesarean section
(August 14, 2021 at 11:05 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: For the record, there was actually a fairly reasonable reason that the RCC was against C-sections: until fairly recently, it was a procedure with an extremely high mortality rate. For the longest time, it was so risky it was only performed when the mother was either dead or almost guaranteed to die anyway.

C-sections were safe since the start of 20th century, but the Catholic Church was discouraging it in the middle of 20th century to after 1980s and forcing something brutal not because it was safer but because C-sections were against some moral law and were leading to sin

Quote:By the start of the 20th century, the advancement of anesthesia and antisepsis had made C-sections practical and safe enough for doctors to start focusing on refining and improving the procedure. By around 1920 these various advancements has shaped C-sections into the modern surgical procedure that we are familiar with today. C-sections were no longer viewed as a desperate option of last resort. Now the C-section was being used as a preemptive solution to improve outcomes for mother and baby. 

https://www.birthinjuryhelpcenter.org/c-...story.html
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