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New theistic chew toys wanted!
RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
Quote:How about peace of mind? The idea that a transcendent "someone" is watching over you, is very comforting. Most of the atheists I've dealt with, seem to have an inner struggle taking place within them, that renders them incapable of finding true, metaphysical rest. Even the happy atheist girl I know, is very promiscuous, to the point of absurdity.
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RE: New theistic chew toys wanted!
(August 28, 2021 at 9:40 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(August 28, 2021 at 4:42 pm)Ahriman Wrote: How about peace of mind? The idea that a transcendent "someone" is watching over you, is very comforting. Most of the atheists I've dealt with, seem to have an inner struggle taking place within them, that renders them incapable of finding true, metaphysical rest. Even the happy atheist girl I know, is very promiscuous, to the point of absurdity.

What does promiscuity have to do with “metaphysical unrest?”

A kinky philosophy, no doubt...tie yourself in knots and question reality.
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(August 28, 2021 at 4:42 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 28, 2021 at 2:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No, it's not, this is pointless.  You just acknowledged that there are happy people in the world who don't believe in your god.  Your perspective, is that you wouldn't be happy.  I suppose it's a dead end.  No one can think of anything a person can only get from a belief in god.
How about peace of mind? The idea that a transcendent "someone" is watching over you, is very comforting. Most of the atheists I've dealt with, seem to have an inner struggle taking place within them, that renders them incapable of finding true, metaphysical rest. Even the happy atheist girl I know, is very promiscuous, to the point of absurdity.

We already discussed this one.  People who feel protected and watched over are a dime a dozen - most of us have a family, and a community, and a state, and a nation, and a culture.  That's alot of transcendence.  

As to the atheist girl you know, maybe she likes to fuck and finds metaphysical rest in it? If you're going to be lazy or unserious, what's the point?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(August 29, 2021 at 3:33 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(August 28, 2021 at 4:42 pm)Ahriman Wrote: How about peace of mind? The idea that a transcendent "someone" is watching over you, is very comforting. Most of the atheists I've dealt with, seem to have an inner struggle taking place within them, that renders them incapable of finding true, metaphysical rest. Even the happy atheist girl I know, is very promiscuous, to the point of absurdity.

We already discussed this one.  People who feel protected and watched over are a dime a dozen - most of us have a family, and a community, and a state, and a nation, and a culture.  That's alot of transcendence.  

As to the atheist girl you know, maybe she likes to fuck and finds metaphysical rest in it?  If you're going to be lazy or unserious, what's the point?
Okay well.......the only other thing I can think of, is transcendent religious experiences. Back when I used to attend Mass, and the organ/choir music was playing, I would sometimes have a "vision", in my mind's eye, of something grand and strange. One time I saw horses with faceless riders, riding on a cloud. Another time I saw a beautiful white woman with blond hair wearing a blue robe, she was smiling and surrounded by golden white light. I doubt any atheist has had this kind of experience.
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Also common to humanity. The sense of the numinous is unrelated to god beliefs and exists absent of them. Most don't hallucinate, though, that's across both theists and atheists.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(August 26, 2021 at 1:35 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: .

That said, the religious trolls tend to keep the atheist trolls occupied and out of my hair, which is just fine with me.

Thus speaketh Chad Wooters, the biggest troll on the site.

Got news for you Wooters, just because you think your nonsense is the bee's knees, it doesn't follow that you're not a vicious low-intelligenc troll. You simply have access to a thesaurus.
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To feel is literally in our genetic and chemical makeup. To ascribe something as secular as music to feeling the divine is as imagintively creative as we can become. To think something is there when it isn't is just part of being human, yet to be reasonably honest one must be capable of distinguishing reality from abstract perceptions.
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Endlessly creative little monkeys - but I do think that the notion is closer to the truth than the attribution to a god is, and even closer to the truth of what gods are. With respect to ahris beliefs, music can be made into a god, just like a hotdog could be made into a god, or any other thing...and much of what ahri has been offering amounts to a way that ahri feels apprehending a thing. Ahris god is -the thing that makes happy and safe thoughts, for example.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(August 29, 2021 at 4:29 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Endlessly creative little monkeys - but I do think that the notion is closer to the truth than the attribution to a god is, and even closer to the truth of what gods are.  With respect to ahris beliefs, music can be made into a god, just like a hotdog could be made into a god, or any other thing...and much of what ahri has been offering amounts to a way that ahri feels apprehending a thing.  Ahris god is -the thing that makes happy and safe thoughts, for example.
That's basically true, although I wouldn't refer to God as a "thing"
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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Its a thing in your head doing things in your head, specifically, the thought which, when apprehended, makes you feel the way you do. That's how it works for atheists too.

I'm not actually talking about allfairies, in case it wasn't clear, I don't believe in them - complaining that gods aren't a thing will be lost on me. I'm discussing the mental object, which shouldn't be an issue for you, as mental objects - like hot dogs, music, or tomatos..or indeed any other.....thing....can be gods - according to you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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