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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 9, 2023 at 4:00 pm
(June 9, 2023 at 12:08 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Military and intelligence contractors are not coming forward to corroborate his claims.
Just how crazy this UFO "whistleblower" David Grusch is, shows that he is also talking about a bell-shaped UFO recovered by Mussolini in 1933 which the U.S. seized in 1944.
The "Nazi Bell" is a paranormal craft that Hitler supposedly created that could also maybe time travel.
Quote:Int.: Can we know more about where these "ships" were recovered?
D.G.: One was recovered in Italy in 1933, which is the earliest case I've been briefed on. I can't talk about the others.
Int.: What allegedly happened there?
D.G.: In 1933, a bell-like craft, around ten meters in size, was recovered in Magenta, northern Italy. It was kept by Mussolini's government until 1944 when it was recovered by agents of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS, a former US intelligence agency). Ironically, it predates anything the public has heard about for decades, such as Roswell, etc. I was authorized to talk about it by the Department of Defense's Office of Prepublication and Security Review.
https://www.leparisien.fr/sciences/david...EIQJTU.php
Needles to say, "Die Glocke" (The Bell) is a very infamous conspiracy theory and is a reworking of Nazi UFO lore, which derives from "Morning of the Magicians," a book which made up stories about Hitler's involvement with magical space aliens and their ancient wisdom, inspiring fascist UFO fantasies.
Dang you just debunked all of my claims. No.
And I quote, " And now, multiple sources close to the matter have come forward to tell Public that Grusch's core claims are accurate. The individuals are all either high-ranking intelligence officials, former intelligence officials, or individuals who we could verify were involved in US government UAP efforts, for three or more decades each. Two of them have testified, including as recently as last year, to both AARO and Congress."
So there goes your one guy having a chuckle making things up idea.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 9, 2023 at 4:16 pm
(June 9, 2023 at 12:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sober up my dude.
No thanks. Bob Lazar I always blew off as a fraudster. This story here is a little different as we have multiple top ranking intelligence officials and people deemed credible. Of course the government could be doing all of this to make us think it's aliens, and governments lie, but with many millions of years to spare, probes from another civilization could have made it here easily. The pilot part is another matter altogether though. I hear people speculating that it would be AI pilots and not biological life, but these are pretty fantastical claims, and I accept that there is a ton of incredible data on UAPs in the governments possession, but the claims of alien bodies are way out there. For now I remain extremely skeptical of these people making these claims at the moment, but where there's a ton of smoke like this, there may be fire, so I'm looking at this different than Bob Lazar or something like that for sure.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 9, 2023 at 6:14 pm
(June 9, 2023 at 11:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I suspect that I see aliens all the time, but it's not my job to check their immigration status.
Boru
And I appreciate that.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 9, 2023 at 8:37 pm
(June 9, 2023 at 4:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: And I quote, " And now, multiple sources close to the matter have come forward to tell Public that Grusch's core claims are accurate. The individuals are all either high-ranking intelligence officials, former intelligence officials, or individuals who we could verify were involved in US government UAP efforts, for three or more decades each. Two of them have testified, including as recently as last year, to both AARO and Congress."
You certainly hallucinate and don't want to sober up.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 11, 2023 at 12:47 am
"Whistleblowing" claims have grown more dramatic
Quote:Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time,' leaving one investigator 'nauseous and disoriented' when he went in and discovered it was much larger inside than out, attorney for whistleblowers reveals
'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said.
The Department of Defense says it has 'not discovered any verifiable information' to support any of the claims.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-time.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 11, 2023 at 8:46 pm
(June 11, 2023 at 12:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: "Whistleblowing" claims have grown more dramatic
Quote:Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time,' leaving one investigator 'nauseous and disoriented' when he went in and discovered it was much larger inside than out, attorney for whistleblowers reveals
'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said.
The Department of Defense says it has 'not discovered any verifiable information' to support any of the claims.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-time.html
No, the market value of whistle blowers have grown more dramatic. The claims are still deadly dull.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 11, 2023 at 9:18 pm
(June 11, 2023 at 12:47 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: "Whistleblowing" claims have grown more dramatic
Quote:Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time,' leaving one investigator 'nauseous and disoriented' when he went in and discovered it was much larger inside than out, attorney for whistleblowers reveals
'They had a guy go into it and it was the size of a football stadium, while the outside was only about 30 feet in diameter.' Sheehan said.
The Department of Defense says it has 'not discovered any verifiable information' to support any of the claims.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-time.html
Maybe the guy was thinking of Death's cottage, from a Terry Pratchett novel.
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 11, 2023 at 9:47 pm
(June 11, 2023 at 9:18 pm)Fireball Wrote: Maybe the guy was thinking of Death's cottage, from a Terry Pratchett novel.
Or the TARDIS from Dr. Who.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 11, 2023 at 10:08 pm
Denialists Are Blaming Anything but Climate for Canada’s Fires
Arsonists, space lasers, pyrotechnic drones; the global right wing is on the hunt for a culprit responsible for Canada’s raging wildfires. Not on the suspect list: climate change.
Scientists have been warning for years that climate change—not just hotter temperatures, but droughts and more extreme winters—would lead to more intense forest fires. Now that their predictions are coming true, people are grasping for other explanations.
But there’s a fierce, and large, contingent of deniers of anthropogenic climate change, and a little thing like mass wildfires isn’t going to stop them. The main line from the Canadian right is that the burns are the work of criminals and firebugs, and that governments are simply “blaming the fires on ‘climate change’ and on the ‘climate crisis,’” as Toronto Sun columnist Joe Warmington wrote Wednesday. Others, like former NHL player-turned-conspiracy theorist Theo Fleury, have taken the idea a step further, alleging that progressives are weaponizing the fires to force “climate lockdowns” on the masses. Taking that idea even further, right-wing politician Maxime Bernier accused “green terrorism” for starting the fires.
What’s different this year is the scale and intensity of the fires. In a normal year, about 230,000 hectares of forest in Canada would have burned by the end of May. This year, nearly 2.8 million hectares burned. And it’s only getting worse. The fact that the fires are affecting multiple parts of the country at once means resources are stretched thin.
In 2021, U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene caught flack for a Facebook post from a few years earlier, wherein she claimed that “lasers or blue beams of light” were responsible for raging wildfires in California. She singled out Rothchild Inc., a favorite target of QAnon and anti-Semites, as a possible culprit.
Not deterred by the ridicule Greene got for her absurd theory, popular far-right conspiracy theorist Stew Peters tweeted to his hundreds of thousands of followers that wildfires erupting in different parts of the country was “statistically impossible to happen by accident.” Instead, he argued, “[c]learly our governments are targeting us with Directed Energy Weapons.”
Conspiracy theories tend to feed off each other. In recent years, many believers in COVID-19 conspiracy theories have alleged that governments are lying about the nature of climate change to facilitate the imposition of “climate lockdowns,” as former NHL player Fleury wrote on Twitter. “That’s next up on the agenda.”
Many who ascribe to this idea point to proposals for “15-minute cities” as evidence that governments have a scheme to turn cities into open air prisons.
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro has fed into this idea, telling viewers on Wednesday that “Democrats are pumping up climate hysteria and bringing back, you guessed it, mask insanity.”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/08/air...smog-fire/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Daily conspiracy
June 11, 2023 at 10:32 pm
(June 11, 2023 at 9:47 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (June 11, 2023 at 9:18 pm)Fireball Wrote: Maybe the guy was thinking of Death's cottage, from a Terry Pratchett novel.
Or the TARDIS from Dr. Who.
Never watched Dr. Who. Maybe I missed something?
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