Stupid things religious people say

[h4ym4n]

There is no 'pro-life movement'. What you have is a pro-birth movement.

Boru

Right; pro-birth simply meaning the successful birth of the human child and it's continued life - as opposed to the opposite, which terminates the pregnancy and thus the life of the child.

"Pro-life" is probably just a nice way of saying, "anti-child killer" to be honest.

You should be greatful your godthing gave us the ability to send souls directly to heaven never being judged, right @TheWhiteMarten

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Right; pro-birth simply meaning the successful birth of the human child and it's continued life - as opposed to the opposite, which terminates the pregnancy and thus the life of the child.

"Pro-life" is probably just a nice way of saying, "anti-child killer" to be honest.

You should be greatful your godthing gave us the ability to send souls directly to heaven never being judged, right @TheWhiteMarten

Oh, puhleaze. You don't give two steaming shits about a child's 'continued life'.  By your own admission, you find it more acceptable that a child be born into a life of squalor, disease, and abuse than never to have been born at all. This makes you - not to put too fine a point on it - a contemptible slug.

And by the way, oh language master, it's 'its', not 'it's'. This makes you ignorant as well as heartless.

Boru

[Sheldon]

Actually I was disagreeing with you it is scientific so sorry to disappoint you

Right; it's scientifically a human.

How much more do we agree on, I wonder...

It has the potential to become a human being, but it clearly is not. Though of course we wouldn't let a human being use another human being's body against their will anyway, even if it meant their life would end. 

[Sheldon]

I agree, they're not pro-life, they're anti choice. I am pro life, that's why I don't want to enslave women, by taking away their bodily autonomy. Least of all to enforce the morality of archaic bronze age superstitions, and to grant those rights to an microscopic clump of insentient cells.

Semantics; opposing the "choice" to kill your child and thus allow it to continue to develop and live is "pro-life."

Sophistry, it's taking away a woman's bodily autonomy, and no child is involved in any termination. 

We are not interested in enslaving women; 

Yes, you clearly are. 

rather we are opposed to the idea that not all humans are granted the most basic of human right - life - 

More sophistry, no human is granted the right to use the body of another against their will, if an adult male of 18 was going to die, and the only donor was the father, and he refused to give up a kidney, you wouldn't advocate strapping him down and removing it against his will, even if it meant the death of the human being that was his son. So it is arbitrary to demand this "right" be granted to a clump of insentient cells. 

It's interesting you believe the pro-life stance is a religious one despite the number of atheists anti-abortionists

They're not mutually exclusive, and I never claimed that misogyny was solely the domain of those who cite archaic superstitions as justification. 

  atheism's inability to provide a moral framework, 

Research has demonstrated time and again that atheists are at least as moral as theists. So your rhetoric is as risible as your arguments. You are simply equating anything or anyone that doesn't share your adherence to archaic superstition as immoral, talk about a poisoning of the well fallacy, and a no true Scotsman fallacy thrown in for good measure. 

but the reality is that it is simply a pro-science, pro-life, pro-reason stance and nothing more.

Nope, and all one need do is see the errancy of your arguments here to demonstrate this is false. 

Dehumanizing language is not becoming - those "microscopic clump of insentient cells" remain a human all the same 

So much for being scientific, this is exposed by lies such as referring to a blastocyst or developing foetus as a child or baby, and then risibly claiming you are being scientific, but it matters not, to paraphrase Matt Dillahunty, I wouldn't care if it was in there writing poetry, it is a woman's body it is part of, and therefore it is her decision how that body is used. 

- and I've know quite a few bad humans who engaged in the same language about groups they deemed inferior.

Godwin's law, the poorly reasoned rhetoric continues unabashed. As I said, there is no such right, that lets any human use the body of another human against their will, even if it meant their death, so you are the one who is discriminating arbitrarily not me.

[Sheldon]

This is what "pro-life" means

200,000 humans killed a day; 70-something million a year - killed in the name of ideology and heavily targeting ethnic minorities.

More sophistry, the only ideological claim being offered here, is that all humans should have the right to decide how their own bodies are used. 

One assumes then, you must be ideologically opposed to the death penalty? One wonders how you feel about the deity you imagine to be real, torturing a newborn baby to death in the bible? How about the genocidal flood, was that immoral ideology? 

It's always fascinating to me, to witness the incongruous machinations involved, in the sententious moral assertions that theists espouse, and all without even a hint of irony. 

The doublespeak @TheWhiteMarten is using here is Orwellian.

[Sheldon]

Subsidizing pre-natal care is not the job of the state

It is in Europe because they are actually pro life. But what would you know since you obviously don't give a shit.

200,000 humans killed a day

Zygotes and embryos are not humans.

Though pregnant women are, and it is ok to condemn them to death, apparently? You have to just smile and nod at these crackpots, the scale of the problem of weaning them onto rational objective factual reasoning, even on a one to one basis, is too daunting.

[Sheldon]

It is in Europe because they are actually pro life. But what would you know since you obviously don't give a shit.

I am aware of how Europe runs their governments nowadays; the fact that I disregard their failures of being worth "giving a shit about" does not mean I am disinterested in them; quite the opposite - I have almost grown a sense of melancholic schadenfreude of karma's design over the whole affair.

200,000 humans killed a day

Zygotes and embryos are not humans.

Well, that's just objectively unscientific.

The hilarity of the Orwellian double think continues unabashed:
Those are not human beings, see the difference here:
Claiming they're the same, and then asserting you're being scientific is pretty hilarious, and then telling others you have sought out to preach your beliefs at, that you don't take their views seriously. well that's just comedy gold.

[Sheldon]

Just empty conservative/libertarian rhetoric

Doubling down on dehumanizing rhetoric sure seems like a bold strategy, let's see if it works for them...

It's not rhetoric, you need to look the word up, as I am dubious it means what you think it does.

[The Architect Of Fate]

He's also wrong Abortion has nothing to do with ideology accepting that women the right fundamental control over their own bodies  is not ideology it's simply human decency and something the forced  birth movement wants to end

[Fake Messiah]

I'm so excited about what the lab results will say 🤮

https://youtu.be/QBKPfgRlVbI?si=vc0UMbSflyMZz-8_

Test results came negative for god.

Secret of Indiana Catholic church 'miracle' that saw communion wafers BLEED

Worshippers across America were stunned at the sight of the food leaking a red substance that appeared to symbolize Jesus' bleeding body.

But weeks later it has been completely debunked, with scientists revealing the true cause of the coloring.

The discoloration was caused by common bacteria typically found on human hands, the Archdiocese said in a statement.

Three different species of bacteria were found on the wafer along with the presence of a fungus.

The news marked a disappointing end to what church members were hoping would put their small town on the map.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...thony.html

Is this what Christians call scientism? When they feel it's a real miracle but then science debunks all the fun?