Stupid things religious people say

[Fake Messiah]

I am reminded of what Ray Romano once said:

But as I grew older, I found my outlook on life changing. I've since converted to a different sect of Catholicism: part-time Catholicism.

Or, as we're called by the other parishioners, the "Easter-Christmas Catholics."

I'm sure you know who we are. There are many of us. And you can always spot us when we do show up in church because we're the ones who don't quite remember the moves.

When to kneel, when to stand, shake a hand, sing a song . . we're lost. We're all just following that one old lady in the front pew.

"Kneel. She's kneeling! All right, up, get up, she's up! Follow her, whatever she does. Wait a minute, she's giving money, don't listen to her."

Although he's trying to be funny, it seems he's portraying a true picture of Catholics, which is that probably most of them don't know when to sit, kneel, or stand, but just follow few people in the church who know, although they might be going to church every Sunday for decades.

[Fake Messiah]

Another edition of Quotes From Popes.

Pope Paul VI in 1972:

Pope Paul Asserts ‘Sensual Pleasure’ May Lead to Drugs

Pope Paul VI, in a blunt speech today, condemned sexual permissiveness and warned that it might lead to drug addiction.

“Behind the Initiation to sensual pleasure, there loom narcotics,” the Pontiff said. He did not elaborate an his contention that sex was linked with drugs.

The pope noted that sexual problems, which he said might have once been treated all too reticently, had lately become all pervasive and obsessive.

Eroticism has become compulsory in literature, he said, and “pandering degradation” has found its way into advertising. He deplored “indecent exhibitionism, aiming at the obscene” in contemporary theater, the flood of pornography, and the search for “the most ignoble and seductive” pleas ures in present‐day amusements.

Moral permissiveness also affects love, the Pope said, because it confounds sexual egoism with the lyrical and generous gift of self.”

He sternly urged his listeners to realize that “we live in a time when the animal side of human nature is degenerating into limitless corruption; we are walking in mud.”

He called on Christians to reject and repudiate the wave of depravity and to protect themselves against “pollution by environmental immorality.”

Society, the Pontiff said, is sliding downward over issues “that render it neither strong nor glorious — contraception, abortion, adultery, divorce.”

https://www.nytimes.com/1972/09/14/archi...drugs.html

[Paleophyte]

He did not elaborate on his contention that sex was linked with drugs.

Rock'n Roll obviously

[The Grand Nudger]

In the 70's eh? What was the rcc up to then? Oh yeah, coming up with their playbook to shield pedo priests, running involuntary laundry services, and laundering stolen haitian money.

Cool.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I am reminded of what Ray Romano once said:

But as I grew older, I found my outlook on life changing. I've since converted to a different sect of Catholicism: part-time Catholicism.

Or, as we're called by the other parishioners, the "Easter-Christmas Catholics."

I'm sure you know who we are. There are many of us. And you can always spot us when we do show up in church because we're the ones who don't quite remember the moves.

When to kneel, when to stand, shake a hand, sing a song . . we're lost. We're all just following that one old lady in the front pew.

"Kneel. She's kneeling! All right, up, get up, she's up! Follow her, whatever she does. Wait a minute, she's giving money, don't listen to her."

Although he's trying to be funny, it seems he's portraying a true picture of Catholics, which is that probably most of them don't know when to sit, kneel, or stand, but just follow few people in the church who know, although they might be going to church every Sunday for decades.

My father liked to describe himself as a cliff-hanging Catholic. 'We don't believe in God, but we do believe that Mary was his mother.'

Boru

[Fake Messiah]

"Just as it is with all the troubles in this world, it's actually the fault of women why Christian denominations (churches) are divided."

You guessed it, it's another edition of Quotes by Popes.

Dec. 24, 1988

[Los Angeles Times] Pope John Paul II reiterated this week that the ordination of women in the Anglican Church poses “serious obstacles” to relations with the Roman Catholic Church.

In a year-end address to cardinals, the Pope, speaking with “sincere pain,” deplored a resolution adopted by the world’s Anglican bishops in August.

John Paul said the action “poses serious obstacles to that progress in reciprocal reconciliation, which in the course of recent decades has arrived at such promising results.”

The Pope had previously spoken out against the ordination of women in the Anglican Communion during a message July 20 to the Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie. John Paul warned then of “new problems” that could upset the path of Christian unity, a reference Vatican sources interpreted as referring to women’s ordination.

He called on the Anglicans to try to avoid the “painful and deplorable consequences” to relations with the Catholic Church and inside the Anglican Communion. He said the resolution failed to consider the ecumenical dimensions of ordaining women priests.

At the same time, the U.S. Catholic bishops issued a statement that said Rev. Barbara C. Harris’ election “will increase our difficulties in an unlimited way” and that the presence of Anglican female bishops would be “a hindrance to (the) process of reconciliation, one we want to see go forward” between the two faiths.

In his year-end address, the Pope said a second cloud over the church this year was “the vain attempt” to ward off a schism by traditionalist Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

https://ecumenism.net/1988/12/pope-decri...ishops.htm

[Fake Messiah]

When the pope tries to out-insane Jesus: "When a man looks at his own wife with lust he is committing adultery in his heart."

Author: Pope John Paul II, 13 October 1980

Adultery committed in the heart is not circumscribed in the limits of the interpersonal relationship which make it possible to determine adultery committed in the body. It is not these limits that decide exclusively and essentially about adultery committed in the heart, but the very nature of lust. It is expressed in this case by a look, that is, by the fact that that man—of whom Christ speaks, for the sake of example—looks lustfully. Adultery in the heart is committed not only because man looks in this way at a woman who is not his wife, but precisely because he looks at a woman in this way. Even if he looked in this way at the woman who is his wife, he could likewise commit adultery in his heart.

https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library...cence-8502

[AFTT47]

When the pope tries to out-insane Jesus: "When a man looks at his own wife with lust he is committing adultery in his heart."

This is interesting because the Pope is acknowledging our animal nature here. It's true that we do have it. It's part of our evolution. Theoretically, a guy could knock up 8000 women in his career and thus spread his genes widely. Like Genghis Khan. No wonder we're all pigs.

Sometimes our basic nature does not serve us well in the modern world. The disagreement is in how to deal with that. Do we acknowledge our basic nature and use intellect to moderate it? Or do we slavishly submit to a guide based on superstition with no evidence of its truthfulness at all?

The answer should be obvious. Sadly, it isn't. Not to most of us at least. But we're making progress. The surveys of religious belief and self-identification are telling. This is especially the case with the most important important demographic - young people.

We're winning. Us old farts might not live to see it but we can take comfort that our descendants will live in a more enlightened world than we do.

[Fake Messiah]

Millicent Sedra (Christian influencer): "Demons are disguising themselves as mental illness. If you do not believe this, then you are an atheist, and demons will take advantage of you as such."

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

"Just as it is with all the troubles in this world, it's actually the fault of women why Christian denominations (churches) are divided."

You guessed it, it's another edition of Quotes by Popes.

Dec. 24, 1988

[Los Angeles Times] Pope John Paul II reiterated this week that the ordination of women in the Anglican Church poses “serious obstacles” to relations with the Roman Catholic Church.

In a year-end address to cardinals, the Pope, speaking with “sincere pain,” deplored a resolution adopted by the world’s Anglican bishops in August.

John Paul said the action “poses serious obstacles to that progress in reciprocal reconciliation, which in the course of recent decades has arrived at such promising results.”

The Pope had previously spoken out against the ordination of women in the Anglican Communion during a message July 20 to the Archbishop of Canterbury, Robert Runcie. John Paul warned then of “new problems” that could upset the path of Christian unity, a reference Vatican sources interpreted as referring to women’s ordination.

He called on the Anglicans to try to avoid the “painful and deplorable consequences” to relations with the Catholic Church and inside the Anglican Communion. He said the resolution failed to consider the ecumenical dimensions of ordaining women priests.

At the same time, the U.S. Catholic bishops issued a statement that said Rev. Barbara C. Harris’ election “will increase our difficulties in an unlimited way” and that the presence of Anglican female bishops would be “a hindrance to (the) process of reconciliation, one we want to see go forward” between the two faiths.

In his year-end address, the Pope said a second cloud over the church this year was “the vain attempt” to ward off a schism by traditionalist Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.

https://ecumenism.net/1988/12/pope-decri...ishops.htm

That’s not particularly stupid when you consider the source. Christian denominations have schism-ed over a lot less than the ordination of women.

And what was going on in JPII’s head that he thought an Anglican-Catholic reconciliation was on the table at all? Better relations isn’t remotely the same as reconciliation.

Boru