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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 16, 2024 at 4:48 am
God can create a whole universe, but for some reason he always needs money!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups
Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 16, 2024 at 5:11 am
"Condemning gay sex as an abomination, is not a condemnation of gay people."
"The bible is a message from a perfect deity, but it's also anachronistically linked to the ignorance and prejudice of bronze age patriarchal Bedouins."
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 16, 2024 at 5:33 am
-God can do anything, except when he can't.
-God knows everything, except what he doesn't.
-God made everything, except for all that yucky stuff.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 17, 2024 at 3:04 am
Put it next to the shroud in the museum of Stupid 🤪
Quote:Sotheby's to auction off ancient Ten Commandments tablet
One of the earliest tablets inscribed with the Ten Commandments is scheduled to go up for auction at Sotheby's on Wednesday. The auctioneer says it's a rare example of a complete tablet dating to C.E. 300-800.
The marble slab weighs 115 pounds, is approximately two feet tall, and is carved with Paleo-Hebrew script.
This tablet has only nine of the ten commandments mentioned in the Book of Exodus — it's missing, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain." The tablet also instructs adherents to worship on Mount Gerizim, a holy site for Samaritans, near the modern-day city of Nablus.
Sotheby's has set the opening bid for the tablet at $1 million USD.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/16/g-s1-3849...nts-tablet
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 17, 2024 at 5:14 am
(December 17, 2024 at 3:04 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Put it next to the shroud in the museum of Stupid 🤪
Quote:Sotheby's to auction off ancient Ten Commandments tablet
One of the earliest tablets inscribed with the Ten Commandments is scheduled to go up for auction at Sotheby's on Wednesday. The auctioneer says it's a rare example of a complete tablet dating to C.E. 300-800.
The marble slab weighs 115 pounds, is approximately two feet tall, and is carved with Paleo-Hebrew script.
This tablet has only nine of the ten commandments mentioned in the Book of Exodus — it's missing, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain." The tablet also instructs adherents to worship on Mount Gerizim, a holy site for Samaritans, near the modern-day city of Nablus.
Sotheby's has set the opening bid for the tablet at $1 million USD.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/16/g-s1-3849...nts-tablet
The difference being that the Shroud is a pious forgery, while this one is a legitimate artifact.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 17, 2024 at 7:07 am
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And speaking about forgeries, Jesus’ crown of thorns has been returned to Notre Dame Cathedral. Not just that, but firefighters and police officers formed a human chain to rescue the Crown of Thorns from the blaze back in 2019.
Imagine risking numerous human lives to save a medieval forgery.
That's how it is with Catholics; although they know that something is forgery, it doesn't stop them from pretending and believing it's real. Nor does this Christian website mention that it is a forgery, but reads as it is a genuine crown and they even praise the fact that they paid for this forgery the amount of money they could have fed all starving people in Europe for at least a year.
Quote:PARIS (OSV News) — Firefighters and police officers formed a human chain to rescue the crown of thorns from the inferno at Notre Dame on April 15, 2019. On Dec. 13, 2024, this holiest relic of Paris’ cathedral was returned to its proper home on the Île de la Cité.
The crown of thorns, placed on Jesus’ head by his captors to cause him pain and mock his claim of authority, was acquired by St. Louis, then-King Louis IX of France, in Constantinople in 1239 for 135,000 livres — nearly half France’s annual expenditure at the time.
A crowd of faithful and curious onlookers gathered on the forecourt of the cathedral as the relic made its way to Notre Dame. Among them was Bénédicte de Villers, a 50-year-old woman who had come to do some Christmas shopping in central Paris. “I was not far away, and realizing what was happening, I took the Metro to come,” she told OSV News.
“Hearing the organ and the singing, I begged the security guards to let me in, explaining that I am a practicing Catholic, and that praying in front of Christ’s crown of thorns meant a lot to me,” she said. “I had already come to venerate it at Notre Dame during Lent.”
https://www.osvnews.com/2024/12/16/jesus...cathedral/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 17, 2024 at 12:10 pm
^In his travelogue The Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain saw so many pieces of the True Cross in so many different places, he guessed that Jesus was nailed to a cross about forty feet high.
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December 20, 2024 at 1:52 am
'AI Jesus' sparks controversy in confessional at historic church: 'People really talked with him in a serious way'
According to a report from the Associated Press, Peter's Chapel in Lucerne, Switzerland, released the findings from a two-month study in which an avatar of Jesus on a computer screen sat in a confessional booth, fielding questions on morality, faith, and other topics. It offered responses based on scripture.
"What was really interesting (was) to see that the people really talked with him in a serious way. They didn't come to make jokes," said chapel theologian and project leader Marco Schmid. Schmid also noted that the installation was intended to get people thinking about "the intersection between the digital and the divine," per the AP, and not meant to substitute for actual human interaction or confession with a priest.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/ai-jesus...00014.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 22, 2024 at 5:10 pm
Exorcisms during the last week of Advent
Christians for many centuries would focus during the final week of Advent on expelling any devils that may be lurking in the corners of their house and property. They believed in a basic spiritual principle that in order to invite God into their home, they needed to "exorcise" it of any evil influence.
Rev. Francis Xavier Weiser, S.J explains this Advent custom in his book Handbook of Christian Feasts and Customs.
In some parts of central Europe ancient customs of driving demons away are practiced on the Feast of Saint Thomas the Apostle (December 21) and during the following nights (Rough Nights) ... farmers will walk through the buildings and around the farmyard, accompanied by a son or one of the farm hands. They carry incense and holy water, which they sprinkle around as they walk. Meanwhile, the rest of the family and servants are gathered in the living room reciting the Rosary. This rite is to sanctify and bless the whole farm in preparation for Christmas, to keep all evil spirits away on the festive days.
Demons do exist and they don't like it when we celebrate such days as Christ's birth. It would make sense that they would want to do anything in their power to disrupt such a celebration.
This custom recognizes this reality and invokes the power of God to drive the evil spirits away. God is always the one who does the work; we simply invite him to exercise his power.
https://aleteia.org/2021/12/22/exorcisms...-of-advent
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
December 22, 2024 at 7:49 pm
(December 16, 2024 at 5:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: -God can do anything, except when he can't.
-God knows everything, except what he doesn't.
-God made everything, except for all that yucky stuff.
Boru
God's helplessness is one of the more intriguing facets of religious belief, especially for Christians. They believe in a god that made everything, right down to the very rules that control reality itself. But he consistently acts as if he is incapable of dealing with the outcome of his own programming. That is probably the most bizarre and frustrating part of asking Christians to make sense of their god.
Q: God made everything. So when the things he makes act a certain way, whose fault is it?
A: it is the fault of the things he created.
Q: Well, if he created them, then isn't he responsible for the outcome?
A: Nope. It is the fault of his creation.
Q: But doesn't that mean it's his fault? It is his creation, after all.
A: Nope. Totally their fault. God bears zero responsibility for it.
Q: Well, if someone made a defective TV, wouldn't you blame the manufacturer for making a faulty device?
A: Nope. The television broke of its own accord. The maker is free and clear.
And that is not an exaggeration. It's a paraphrase of a discussion I was having with Godschild one time.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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