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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
April 6, 2022 at 8:57 am
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2022 at 9:51 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
So Klors whining so far is
1. That an actual standard of evidence is demanded and he's not allowed to just make stuff up and just say "well it's not science therefore category error"
2. That his credulity isn't given special preference so he can sneak god in without evidence and that we won't engage in the idiot's version of skepticism.
3. That is because most religious people and even atheists fall into the trap of viewing atheism as depressing when the opposite is the case. If religious people really grappled with the implications of what they accept their suicide rates would skyrocket because theism is depressing as hell.
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 13, 2022 at 1:38 pm
Ray Comfort has a banana to debunk atheism, and Klorophyll has peanut butter.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 13, 2022 at 1:42 pm
(October 13, 2022 at 1:38 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Ray Comfort has a banana to debunk atheism, and Klorophyll has peanut butter.
Why?? Like a bad horror movie, this thread refuses to die!
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 13, 2022 at 2:37 pm
(October 13, 2022 at 1:42 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Why?? Like a bad horror movie, this thread refuses to die!
It is pinned so I guess it's meant to go on forever like a soap opera.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
October 14, 2022 at 2:13 am
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 5, 2022 at 6:08 pm
(February 3, 2022 at 1:25 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: In Quantum Mechanics, there is causality, but it doesn't mean what Kloro thinks it means.
Initial conditions determine the probabilities of "caused" events, but do not determine the actual events themselves.
If the Many Worlds interpretation is correct, the multi-verse-wide universal wavefunction evolves as it will - possibly deterministically, but which reality "this version of you" finds itself in is indeterminate.
If causes do not "determine" which 50/50 outcome happens, then one can say that choice was uncaused. But, the fact that such a 50/50 choice emerged in the first place is "caused" by the initial conditions prior to that choice.
Causality still places limits on what is possible, but QM guarantees that the actual results, within what is possible, aren't determined (or, if you like, aren't "caused").
So, if a god is responsible for the universe, it might set up the initial conditions of the Big Bang such that intelligent life is possible. Exactly if, when, where, and in what form it occurs would be a mystery, even to the god (and perhaps it exists only in certain versions of a multiverse).
The Everettian view doesn't work because there might be two options (spin up, spin down) but not necessarily a 50:50 split according to the Born rule. The wavefunction might have amplitudes such that you should get spin up 70% of the time and spin down 30% of the time. But if you keep splitting into just two branches, the overwhelming majority of the branches will record a 50:50 split, just like they were flipping a coin.
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 15, 2022 at 5:51 pm
(October 14, 2022 at 2:13 am)Jackalope Wrote: Administrator Notice
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 15, 2022 at 6:55 pm
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 15, 2022 at 6:56 pm
(November 15, 2022 at 5:51 pm)R00tKiT Wrote: (October 14, 2022 at 2:13 am)Jackalope Wrote: Administrator Notice
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
November 15, 2022 at 6:59 pm
(November 15, 2022 at 6:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Who the fuck do you think you are???
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