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Is love real?

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Is love real?
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#21
RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:14 pm
(September 22, 2021 at 4:10 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(September 22, 2021 at 4:04 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The cake is a lie.   Dodgy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5TuxdkfkE

-that's love.

‘Love is a lie that cuts like a knife / With its sorrows and faded blisses. / I go to a girl who asks naught of life / Save wine and a drunkard’s kisses.’ - Robert E. Howard, author and lunatic.

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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:15 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2021 at 4:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If we're talking janes addiction..um...three days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvG2GZ3S7o

Specific answer..no it's not love unless you need them. Anything less.....is infatuation. I don't know what I'd do without and no one could say what I was doing, before I found love.
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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:18 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2021 at 4:19 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(September 22, 2021 at 4:13 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(September 22, 2021 at 4:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The the importance of the happiness of the other person. Turn the Heinlein definition around - can you truly say you love someone if you’re indifferent to their happiness? If the happiness factor is removed, it isn’t love. Anything else - physical attractiveness, sex, fear of being alone - is fair game.

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Yeah but most of us aren't indifferent to anyone's happiness short of complete strangers and when it's convenient.  Even the drunk at the bus stop evokes concern in many of us.

But the happiness of complete strangers isn’t usually essential to your own. 

You can be concerned about that drunk, but does his inebriation affect your happiness? In other words, are you made perpetually unhappy by the unhappiness of other people? 

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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:22 pm
my flip flop!
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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:23 pm
(September 22, 2021 at 4:13 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(September 22, 2021 at 4:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The the importance of the happiness of the other person. Turn the Heinlein definition around - can you truly say you love someone if you’re indifferent to their happiness? If the happiness factor is removed, it isn’t love. Anything else - physical attractiveness, sex, fear of being alone - is fair game.

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Yeah but most of us aren't indifferent to anyone's happiness short of complete strangers and when it's convenient.  Even the drunk at the bus stop evokes concern in many of us.  We are a care/ful species by nature.

And is it not love if I need me more than I need you?  That seems to be the foundation of many a breakup, even where there's love.

If two people split because one is willing to hurt the other, I contend that it isn’t love. They may be concern about the other person, they may feel bad for the hurt involved, but that’s not love. It’s more like falling out of love.

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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:35 pm
Real?

Some would say that only that which is quantifiable is real.

If you can' t measure it, it isn' t real.

Also - it is observer dependant.


Anything comprising matter or energy can exist without an observer.


So it kinda depends on your definition of " real".


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#27
RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:38 pm
It's a grave mental disease.
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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:44 pm
OP: No.
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September 22, 2021 at 4:49 pm



Sorry couldn't help it  Hehe
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RE: Is love real?
September 22, 2021 at 4:49 pm
Yes, and I have the restraining order to prove it.
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