New music, Old music

[Jackie]

I listen almost exclusively to either classical (Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, etc) or late 60's/early 70's rock.

I don't generally have music seeking behavior, though. I can easily go for a month without listening to anything.

I do pick up stuff from the environment, so if my wife listens to something, I tend to learn it.

So you lost the roll of Winchester on M*A*S*H?


Just being silly.  Truth is throughout human history, older music always influences new music and the meshing and mixing produces newer styles. 

I think one of the biggest examples of how core musicians don't buy into popular tribalism, are things like the San Francisco Symphony doing a concert with Metallica, and others like Snoop Dog doing a duet with Willie Nelson.

What I do hate about human tribalism, especially with music, is that all the "Ford vs Chevy" music fans "us vs them" fans don't understand that most of the time, the artists they are so tribal over, if they went to their homes, and checked out their music libraries, regardless of genera, would find out most artists who end up at the top that everyone knows, has a far more diverse library than the fans know.

[Angrboda]

[Spongebob]

Old, for sure.  I can only listen to most newer artists for a few seconds before I change the channel.  Some exceptions; 21 Pilots and Lorde for example.

Old music is cool, but new music has that sweet, sweet novelty value.

It depends on which music you're talking about, and of course its subjective.  Not everyone appreciates the same musical elements.  I don't like any music because it's old.  Like most people, I prefer music I grew up with.

I don't even know what "sweet novelty value" means.  "Novelty" usually means something that's weird and difficult to find, which really doesn't describe much music at all.  If anything music is getting more and more repetitious and less original.

[popeyespappy]

[Jackie]

Old music is cool, but new music has that sweet, sweet novelty value.

It depends on which music you're talking about, and of course its subjective.  Not everyone appreciates the same musical elements.  I don't like any music because it's old.  Like most people, I prefer music I grew up with.

I don't even know what "sweet novelty value" means.  "Novelty" usually means something that's weird and difficult to find, which really doesn't describe much music at all.  If anything music is getting more and more repetitious and less original.

Well yes. I overlap of late 70s and 80's music, and very little of early 90s music. But by the mid and late 90s I lost interest. I think that is always normal in every generation. I will say however, with my late mother, we had some common overlap in a couple ABBA songs, and our common favorite song we both love was  "My Life" by Billy Joel. So certainly there are generational gaps, but it isn't impossible for for different generations to find overlap even if small.

But I had no idea when the TV show Moonlighting redid songs "Blue Moon" and "I Told You I Now Get Out " that they were covers of days of old. I'd bet my life, even today's young popular rock and pop artists are drawing from the past.

I agree, it most certainly is subjective. 

If I had a billion dollars to pay Metallica to cover "Offbeat Of Avenues" by Manhattan Transfer, I would do so.

[Ranjr]

I listen almost exclusively to either classical (Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, etc) or late 60's/early 70's rock.

I don't generally have music seeking behavior, though. I can easily go for a month without listening to anything.

I do pick up stuff from the environment, so if my wife listens to something, I tend to learn it.

Do you think Eric Carmen illegally copied Rachmaninoff in the prechorus to All By Myself?

[Spongebob]

Well yes. I overlap of late 70s and 80's music, and very little of early 90s music. But by the mid and late 90s I lost interest. I think that is always normal in every generation. 

I think this describes the situation pretty well.  The more music you listen to, the more you notice similarities in other music, repeated riffs, chord progressions, vocal styles and so on.  Every now and then I "discover" an artist that I had overlooked or discounted some time ago and then I wonder how I could have possibly missed this.  But its rare.  In truth, I don't believe there is an infinite range of musical ideas and it's possible that they will all be used up some day.

If there's one aspect of contemporary music that I appreciate, it's when a contemporary artist covers a song by an older act and alters the makeup of the song such that it sounds like a completely different song, yet I can still find the original in there somewhere.  That takes some effort.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I listen almost exclusively to either classical (Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninoff, etc) or late 60's/early 70's rock.

I don't generally have music seeking behavior, though. I can easily go for a month without listening to anything.

I do pick up stuff from the environment, so if my wife listens to something, I tend to learn it.

Do you think Eric Carmen illegally copied Rachmaninoff in the prechorus to All By Myself?

Well, Eric Carmen thinks he did, so…yes.

Boru

[popeyespappy]

[Oldandeasilyconfused]