Too PC for me.

[arewethereyet]

I just have a difficult time remembering what's okay and what's not.

I find it odd to use wife and husband when clearly those are gender based labels.

[zwanzig]

I just have a difficult time remembering what's okay and what's not.

I find it odd to use wife and husband when clearly those are gender based labels.

Agree. Then again, I'm one of those people who's not a big fan of marriage as an institution to begin with, so, the terms for it seem outdated and restrictive.

[onlinebiker]

I don't get it...

Do you accept trans identities?

If a transman was pregnant, would you insist on referring to him as a pregnant woman? Even though he's a man and is accepted in society as a man?

I don't understand the incredulity over one thing and not the other. Like, "Fine, you're a man. But if you get pregnant, you must be a woman."

I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

You want me to call you "Stanley" - fine...

Hey Stanley - you' re getting quite the beer gut there......Pregnant???? ......

Ok Stanley -  whatever you say......


Just don' t expect an appology for the misunderstanding...

[Spongebob]

I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

You want me to call you "Stanley" - fine...

Hey Stanley - you' re getting quite the beer gut there......Pregnant???? ......

Ok Stanley -  whatever you say......


Just don' t expect an appology for the misunderstanding...

I will agree with you there.  If social convention is going to be turned on its head (and I personally don't care if it is), I would appreciate some understanding when I mess up whatever confusing language I'm expected to use.  The first time I heard non-binary, I thought what the hell?!  It's dumb to expect people to understand something they've never experienced before.

[zwanzig]

I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

You want me to call you "Stanley" - fine...

Hey Stanley - you' re getting quite the beer gut there......Pregnant???? ......

Ok Stanley -  whatever you say......


Just don' t expect an appology for the misunderstanding...

Usually when I make a mistake, I apologize. Because it was an accident and I didn't mean for it to happen/to cause harm to anyone. "Sorry" is the thing you say for those specific circumstances where offense or action of some kind was unintentional. If you meant to do it, you wouldn't give an apology because what happened was your intent, so, there's nothing to feel sorry about.

[Brian37]

I don't get it...

Do you accept trans identities?

If a transman was pregnant, would you insist on referring to him as a pregnant woman? Even though he's a man and is accepted in society as a man?

I don't understand the incredulity over one thing and not the other. Like, "Fine, you're a man. But if you get pregnant, you must be a woman."

I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

You want me to call you "Stanley" - fine...

Hey Stanley - you' re getting quite the beer gut there......Pregnant???? ......

Ok Stanley -  whatever you say......


Just don' t expect an appology for the misunderstanding...

Pretty sure Amy Farrah Fowler, Sheldon's love interest, whom in reality is a microbiologist, neuroscientist would disagree. 

Focusing on gender at birth, is bullshit. Science has increasingly understood that the brain and body don't always match the plumbing. 

If Jenner wants to call herself a woman, I will call her a woman, but that does not mean she is right on economics.

[arewethereyet]

I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

You want me to call you "Stanley" - fine...

Hey Stanley - you' re getting quite the beer gut there......Pregnant???? ......

Ok Stanley -  whatever you say......


Just don' t expect an appology for the misunderstanding...

Pretty sure Amy Farrah Fowler, Sheldon's love interest, whom in reality is a microbiologist, neuroscientist would disagree. 

Focusing on gender at birth, is bullshit. Science has increasingly understood that the brain and body don't always match the plumbing. 

If Jenner wants to call herself a woman, I will call her a woman, but that does not mean she is right on economics.

Bold mine - does that mean something in your language?

WTF moment early today.

[Angrboda]

Biker is the type of asshole who would call a guy with long hair a girl by mistake and then not apologize because he doesn't agree with guys wearing long hair.

Absolutely zero insight into other people and no tolerance for anybody's opinion but his own.

bigot, n.

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

~ Merriam-Webster

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Biker is the type of asshole who would call a guy with long hair a girl by mistake and then not apologize because he doesn't agree with guys wearing long hair.

Absolutely zero insight into other people and no tolerance for anybody's opinion but his own.

bigot, n.

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

~ Merriam-Webster

If long hair is the criterion, then I might be the ugliest girl in New Zealand.

Boru

[vulcanlogician]

I personally don't care about someone' s " identity" even when it falls clearly into conflict with basic biology.

Well, if you don't care, then you might consider having a more understanding attitude. Think about it this way: isn't it weird that we resolve to treat people in a certain way and assign them social roles based on if they have a "long and dangly" swinging between their legs? But that's gender norms for you. Certain people don't want to conform to these norms. That's all.

I'm not applying social pressure or anything. (I think "social pressure" might be your real gripe anyway.) What I do is try to treat trans people with dignity and respect... including respecting their pronouns. I don't feel the need to buy into whatever pronoun package is being sold, nor am I offended by it. I just try to be decent toward everybody. I think a similar attitude might suit you, Biker.