The atrocities of religiosity warrant our finest. Logic is not it

[The Grand Nudger]

Is that the line where the pretend therapist doesn't know that religious doctrine is exempt from pathology, and a right to refuse care does not require a religious explanation?

I think I'm starting to see why you prefer something other than logic when discussing these things.

[Ghetto Sheldon]

Do you have evidence to support your claims?

the current DSM-IV definition of delusion exempts religious doctrine from pathology altogether

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15990520/

It would seem that you'd have to start there...changing the current standards to reflect your position, rather than bitching about atheists on a message board handling largely academic questions about good or bad arguments as offered by the religious.  No one comes here to deprogram nutballs.  Not our jobs.  Not yours, either, which is a good thing for everyone involved.

The  life threatening/oppressive atrocities of religiosity on a global, historic basis is of supreme importance warranting every resource we have.
A pitch to do science & generate the evidence we need to offer our finest is not only a marketing failure,  it's a narc injury resulting in narc rage.

[The Grand Nudger]

Just not the resource of clear thoughts and concise argumentation.

[Ghetto Sheldon]

Just not the resource of clear thoughts and concise argumentation.  

^^ Sweeping dismissal w/o discussion of specifics in line 3 & 4 of my OP

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Just not the resource of clear thoughts and concise argumentation.  

^^ Sweeping dismissal w/o understanding  of specifics in line 3 & 4 of my OP

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Is that the line where the pretend therapist doesn't know that religious doctrine is exempt from pathology, and a right to refuse care does not require a religious explanation?

I think I'm starting to see why you prefer something other than logic when discussing these things.

YOu're ruled out as a person w/ integrity per calling me a pretend therapist

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Then there you go..just like I suggested..what you need to do is take your crusade to where it matters.  AF doesn't write clinical standards or criminal law.  Good luck.

The mountains of evidence behind my assertions stand & can be fact checked regardless of a lay person's bickering.
Sorry 
You're excused for being unable to focus on OP 
Is there a block button?

[The Grand Nudger]

The sweeping dismissal of reason, clinical standards, and legal realities is only made even more inexplicable with reference to either item. Why assess atheists arguments...and why atheists arguments in particular..to treat delusional people, not that the religious or god believers are delusional, so that you can remove a right that doesn't depend on their religiosity or their being delusional - and how do you plan to assess them (or anything else) without logic?

I think you're a fraud and a simpleton, sure, but you probably couldn't determine whether I had integrity based on that. It's a non sequitur. Ostensibly, I could be even simpler than you, to the point where I'd believe a word you said..and still be a shitty person with no integrity. See, logic. Whereas you are a pretend therapist, other people make effort to be actual thinkers.

[Nay_Sayer]

Sheldon is a therapist?

Neat; I've been having this dream about being nude at the circus, Perhaps you can decipher it

[Ghetto Sheldon]

 ^^ sweeping dismissal  w/o substantiation

[Anomalocaris]

-blah blah blah

Ghetto, yes

Sheldon, no.

[Ghetto Sheldon]

-blah blah blah

Ghetto, yes

Sheldon, no.

^^ sweeping dismissal  w/o substantiation 
^^ dodging OP 
^^ irrelevant & off topic

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Ghetto, yes

Sheldon, no.

^^ sweeping dismissal  w/o substantiation 
^^ dodging OP 
^^ irrelevant & off topic

Based on your clinical expertise and your rejection of logic in favour of science and medicine, would you agree that - even at 41 - Christian Ricci has an amazing rack?

Boru