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Why does God care about S E X?
#21
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 6:36 am)Ten Wrote: Boru brought up a good point in the Gay thread and I thought we could dive deeper with the question as the actual focus.

Why does god care about our genitals so much?

It's one of the things that really influenced my incredulity and atheism that a god would be so focused on our genitals and what we're doing with them. I know in Mormonism, the focus on sexual purity and repression is part of the BITE model programming for the cult(sex being such a natural part of being human, you can influence and control people by making them feel guilt and shame around this natural instinct they'll never be free from) and a core part of the doctrine(you can't have trans or gay folks because the model for the planetary rewards in the afterlife is Adam and 5+ Eves; The harem god factory doesn't work with Adam and 5+ Steves or if Eve was assigned male at birth, although it'd probably be more fun to run around an empty planet with a bunch of very gay god sex happening). So, I understand for that religious cult why they focus on genitals so much.

But why does god have this focus in other religions?

Because genitals in humans are the engine of life itself.
All of us are products of genital function. Matter in fact, try to look at the process of reproduction from an absolute perspective: it is a miracle, and the sensation we get from it is the natural attraction for us to engage in this act and keep the future of humanity alive.

Yet; just like all other "features" humans have; this comes in with a price:

1-Female humans get pregnant with new souls from this act.
2-Addictive chemicals fill the human brain and in many cases it can lead to violence.
3-Addiction to the act can lead to long-term mutations to the brain -such as the case in homosexuality-.
4-Showing the act to children can also cause them traumas and long-term -if not long lasting- complications.

A God that wouldn't regulate and talk about sex is an obsolete, ignorant God. A false God; in other words.
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#22
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 1:13 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(October 20, 2021 at 12:21 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Equivocation.

What's your alternative definition of caring that you think can apply to a deity?

Ten used the word 'care' in the following sense:

Oxford English Dictionary Wrote:2.b. To feel concern (great or little), be concerned, trouble oneself, feel interest. Also in colloquial phrases expressing or implying lack of interest or concern: for all I care, see if I care, who cares?

You replied to him using care in the following sense:

Oxford English Dictionary Wrote:3. to care for: to take thought for, provide for, look after, take care of. Also with indirect passive.

Those are distinctly different meanings. Your objection doesn't apply in the sense that Ten used the word.
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#23
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 2:57 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 20, 2021 at 6:36 am)Ten Wrote: Boru brought up a good point in the Gay thread and I thought we could dive deeper with the question as the actual focus.

Why does god care about our genitals so much?

It's one of the things that really influenced my incredulity and atheism that a god would be so focused on our genitals and what we're doing with them. I know in Mormonism, the focus on sexual purity and repression is part of the BITE model programming for the cult(sex being such a natural part of being human, you can influence and control people by making them feel guilt and shame around this natural instinct they'll never be free from) and a core part of the doctrine(you can't have trans or gay folks because the model for the planetary rewards in the afterlife is Adam and 5+ Eves; The harem god factory doesn't work with Adam and 5+ Steves or if Eve was assigned male at birth, although it'd probably be more fun to run around an empty planet with a bunch of very gay god sex happening). So, I understand for that religious cult why they focus on genitals so much.

But why does god have this focus in other religions?

Because genitals in humans are the engine of life itself.
All of us are products of genital function. Matter in fact, try to look at the process of reproduction from an absolute perspective: it is a miracle, and the sensation we get from it is the natural attraction for us to engage in this act and keep the future of humanity alive.

Yet; just like all other "features" humans have; this comes in with a price:

1-Female humans get pregnant with new souls from this act.
2-Addictive chemicals fill the human brain and in many cases it can lead to violence.
3-Addiction to the act can lead to long-term mutations to the brain -such as the case in homosexuality-.
4-Showing the act to children can also cause them traumas and long-term -if not long lasting- complications.

A God that wouldn't regulate and talk about sex is an obsolete, ignorant God. A false God; in other words.

What a hot steaming pile...
  
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#24
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 2:57 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 2-Addictive chemicals fill the human brain and in many cases it can lead to violence.

Citation needed.

(October 20, 2021 at 2:57 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 3-Addiction to the act can lead to long-term mutations to the brain -such as the case in homosexuality-.

Citation needed.
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#25
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
Winterhold knows a LOT about sex [citation needed].

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#26
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
Well sex can definitely lead to violence.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#27
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 3:40 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well sex can definitely lead to violence.

According to our old time Methos (methodists) sex is to be avoided if possible as it has been known to lead to dancing
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#28
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 3:24 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(October 20, 2021 at 2:57 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 2-Addictive chemicals fill the human brain and in many cases it can lead to violence.

Citation needed.

(October 20, 2021 at 2:57 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 3-Addiction to the act can lead to long-term mutations to the brain -such as the case in homosexuality-.

Citation needed.

2-

https://qz.com/678186/theres-a-neurologi...-violence/


Quote:David Anderson, a neurobiologist from California Institute of Technology, has published several papers showing that in mice and in fruit flies,  come down to the same clusters of neurons.
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The close relationship between sex and violence is not particularly surprising, he says, given similarities in the two behaviors across the animal world. “They both involve an initial approach and close investigation, a lot of sniffing and sensing, and in some animals you see that sexual behavior can be accompanied by aggression, for example biting,” he says.

Black Widow spiders; anybody? 

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https://neurosciencenews.com/neuroscienc...ain-15354/


Quote:In the long term, pornography seems to create sexual dysfunctions, especially the inability to achieve erection or orgasm with a real life partner. Marital quality and  also appear to be compromised.

(October 20, 2021 at 3:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Winterhold knows a LOT about sex [citation needed].

Boru

Winterhold knew a lot about the prison called Saudi Arabia where he lived for decades under the tyranny of the Wahhabi church backed by the Sauds. The only place I saw women naked was the web, for long straight 20 something years.

Believe me I might not know how sex feels, but I very much know how prison inmates feel.
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#29
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 5:13 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(October 20, 2021 at 3:24 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Citation needed.


Citation needed.

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https://qz.com/678186/theres-a-neurologi...-violence/


Quote:David Anderson, a neurobiologist from California Institute of Technology, has published several papers showing that in mice and in fruit flies,  come down to the same clusters of neurons.
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The close relationship between sex and violence is not particularly surprising, he says, given similarities in the two behaviors across the animal world. “They both involve an initial approach and close investigation, a lot of sniffing and sensing, and in some animals you see that sexual behavior can be accompanied by aggression, for example biting,” he says.

Black Widow spiders; anybody? 

This research applies to fruit flies and mice, not humans. In fruit flies and mice there may be overlap between neurons associated with aggression and sex.  The citation doesn't support any conclusions about human behavior, nor that there's a causal relationship between the two. Moreover, this has nothing to do with addictive chemicals in the brain which was the basis of your claim.

FAIL.



(October 20, 2021 at 5:13 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 3- 
https://neurosciencenews.com/neuroscienc...ain-15354/


Quote:In the long term, pornography seems to create sexual dysfunctions, especially the inability to achieve erection or orgasm with a real life partner. Marital quality and  also appear to be compromised.

Do you know the difference between sex and pornography?  This citation is irrelevant to what you claimed.

FAIL.
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#30
RE: Why does God care about S E X?
(October 20, 2021 at 5:29 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(October 20, 2021 at 5:13 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 2-

https://qz.com/678186/theres-a-neurologi...-violence/



Black Widow spiders; anybody? 

This research applies to fruit flies and mice, not humans.  In fruit flies and mice there may be overlap between neurons associated with aggression and sex.  The citation doesn't support any conclusions about human behavior, nor that there's a causal relationship between the two.  Moreover, this has nothing to do with addictive chemicals in the brain which was the basis of your claim.

FAIL.
Mice are very close in terms of biology:
https://www.jax.org/why-the-mouse/excellent-models

Quote:[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9)]Humans and mice don't look alike, but both species are mammals and are biologically very similar.[/color]

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9)]Almost all of the genes in mice share functions with the genes in humans. [/color]

Fail.
The addictive substance called "Dopamine" and it's produced when we have a reward; like orgasm:
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what...and%20plan.

Quote:Dopamine plays a role in how we feel pleasure. It's a big part of our unique human ability to think and plan. It helps us strive, focus, and find things interesting.

Fail^2

Quote:
WinterHold Wrote: Wrote:3- 
https://neurosciencenews.com/neuroscienc...ain-15354/


Quote: Wrote:In the long term, pornography seems to create sexual dysfunctions, especially the inability to achieve erection or orgasm with a real life partner. and [url=https://doi.org/10.1521/jscp.2012.31.4.410][/url] also appear to be compromised.

Do you know the difference between sex and pornography?  This citation is irrelevant to what you claimed.

FAIL.

Yes. Sex is the execution of pornography.

Fail^3
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