Can America ever truly pay for its sins?

[Neo-Scholastic]

Yeah, that tracks...when confronted with the reality of your positions, you feel that the thing to do would be to avoid anyone who brought that to your attention.  That's how the ideology protects itself.

You have yet to confront my positions on any serious level. Genetic fallacies* don't count as an argument. Neither does making shit up i.e. the so-called "5 pillars of white supremacy".

* It's good political rethoric I guess, I'm not a politician so that bullshit doesn't work with me

EDIT: Thanks for reminding me that there's an ignore option.

Yeah, I went back to his previous posts to find those 5 pillars and could not find a coherent thought.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yeah, sure, sociology is part of the conspiracy to victimize the white man. Cant be trusted.

I get the impression that you think you're talking to a leftist in some movement? Dollars to donuts this is your hook.

[ToTheMoon]

You have yet to confront my positions on any serious level. Genetic fallacies* don't count as an argument. Neither does making shit up i.e. the so-called "5 pillars of white supremacy".

* It's good political rethoric I guess, I'm not a politician so that bullshit doesn't work with me

EDIT: Thanks for reminding me that there's an ignore option.

Yeah, I went back to his previous posts to find those 5 pillars and could not find a coherent thought.

He's basically trying to argue that if you agree in any way with anything a white supremacist ever says, then you're a white supremacist too.

I'm like, fuck that, that's a fallacy. My problem with the woke crowd is that they're deranged and self-refuting, not that they're trying to end racism. Their tactics just suck and they lie too much.

[The Grand Nudger]

I keep asking what word you'd prefer I use for people who think that the white victimization narrative is just a fact. For people who, when confronted with their tendency to spout off fact free racist talking points, believe that arguing those fact free racist talking points are true would be a way to defend their character in believing as much.

[ToTheMoon]

I keep asking what word you'd prefer I use for people who think that the white victimization narrative is just a fact.  For people who, when confronted with their tendency to spout off fact free racist talking points, believes that arguing those fact free racist talking points are true would be a way to defend their character in believing as much.

There needs to be a word for that?

Bottom line is this, no matter what progressive circles I find myself in there always seems to be that guy who's going to say something incredibly antagonistic towards whites and the rest will not challenge him on it, maybe they think it's not a big deal, maybe they think whites deserve it for slavery, maybe they think the guy is non-white and is entitled to act that way because he's angry and oppressed, I don't fucking care, point is the "champions against racism" when confronted about it won't even admit that it is possible to be racist against whites because they define racism as "power+prejudice", a very stupid way to define a system of moral values in any case. Next you have the lies, the exaggerations, the riots, the portrayal of regular conservatives and even some liberals as racist monsters, the sometimes hidden agendas, the purity tests (i.e. it's not enough to not be racist as an individual, you have to agree with everything we say, if you're color-blind you're still racist). BLM for example is not entirely honest about what they believe.

This is why I chose to oppose your ilk. I don't have a problem with non-whites, I have a problem with you and your tactics and this really bugs you.

[The Grand Nudger]

Well..there is a word for people who think that the organizing principles of white supremacy are true..obviously, but you don't want me using it..so?

I hear you, I hear you, the white man is under attack. How many of the five items in question can you identify in your comments above?

[ToTheMoon]

This is just going in circles now.

[The Grand Nudger]

Doesnt have to..we're still hanging on the issue of you having rode in on the crt train..for example. Fact free express. A wholly manufactured issue that you and many others find compelling. The worry, bluntly, that whites are being victimized in school. That this is a part of some shadowy conspiracy against america, to weaken and destroy her - from the inside.

Does it concern you that you're operating under entirely and demonstrably false assumptions? Is it important for your positions and concerns to be based in reality?

[ToTheMoon]

Prove it's wrong.

[The Grand Nudger]

Simple. CRT isn't being taught to our kids. It's a graduate level field of study. If there's some shadowy conspiracy to destroy america from within..this isn't a part of it..because it's not happening.

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I could also, if you're interested, point you in the direction of the person who came up with this shit. It's sort of impressive.

I am quite intentionally redefining what 'critical race theory' means in the public mind, expanding it as a catchall for the new racial orthodoxy. People won't read Derrick Bell, but when their kid is labled an 'oppressor' in first grade, that's now CRT.

The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think ‘critical race theory.

Chris Rufo.

Used to be a "research fellow" for the discovery institute. He laundered this garbage in the usual places, white power hour..where you found it...and believed it.