Russia and Ukraine

[The Architect Of Fate]

Sure; conditioning to have such an irrational response to truthful claims is a very effective form of social manipulation.

Nothing that was said was irrational. 

Ignore function removes after time? Lovely.

Yes yes we know you love to cower and hide because you can't argue your points and constantly get your ass kicked

[The Architect Of Fate]

Generally we stick to an ideological binary on this forum. We hate Trump, Putin, and religion. Any statement which is insufficiently negative toward one of those subjects will be interpreted as propaganda for the enemy. Even if it's true. 

For example I said I thought that Harris promising to continue the genocide in Gaza was bad. Because I'm against genocide. For this I was accused of being a Trump supporter. As if any negative statement about Harris is a positive statement in favor of Trump.

The other day I pointed out that during my trips to China I was not followed or kept under special surveillance. I acknowledged that people more important than I am might have different experiences. For this I was accused of being a paid propagandist for China.

I'm reading a lot of whining and playing the victim.

But your irrational for correctly identifying Bel as a Russian propagandist (A guy who constantly regardless of context apologizes for Russia)

[TheWhiteMarten]

Sure; conditioning to have such an irrational response to truthful claims is a very effective form of social manipulation.

Yes, and Bel shows a lot of social conditioning.

Yes, there are a lot of people on this forum with views contradictory to his.

Everyone's free to state their opinions.

But, when people respond to your claims and contradict them, expressing their own, you can argue back.

Pouting, whining, and playing the victim about it when others express those opinions, as Bel does frequently, is no way to respond.

I truly cannot believe this isn't said without a hint of irony, I'm sorry; that has been precisely my experience since arriving and it was frankly refreshing to see someone with a take other than, "OTHER SIDE EVIL RACIST HATE UKRAINE WANT EVERYONE DIE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

[The Architect Of Fate]

I truly cannot believe this isn't said without a hint of irony, I'm sorry. that has been precisely my experience since arriving and it was frankly refreshing to see someone with a take other than, "OTHER SIDE EVIL RACIST HATE UKRAINE WANT EVERYONE DIE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"

It isn't because there is no irony to be found and she at no point engaged in whining or pouting unlike Bel who is an eternal victim. Nah that's your skewed perception and yes we know reality bothers you and that not our problem and yes I'm sure meeting an equally lost person made you feel good you can be peas in a delusional pod

[Thumpalumpacus]

Wouldn't it be true that any end of the war that doesn't instate a puppet of the US or China in the Kremlin is a chance for Russia to rearm and reinvade (even other ex-soviet states)?

Putin needs someone else to enforce this outcome on the ukrainians because he...obviously...is incapable of doing so himself.  This isn't a simple issue of king donald going on not twitter to hereby declare something.  Boots will have to be on the ground to keep the ukrainians from grinding down what's left of russian forces, and shoot down whatever strike packages happen to wiz overhead.  Whoever does this will have putin by the balls.  If the us outlines the deal and china holds the ground then we'll each have a testicle.  In this, putin is relying on ukraine to reject any offer because he could not himself accept any of his own offers.  

None of this is in the interest of russia as a state, though, no more than the invasion of ukraine was itself.  Putins replacement might be worse than him, almost certainly will be, but they can also use the narrative that putin has been building as his own escape hatch by prosecuting and murdering admin officials, by allowing russians to openly criticize the state and spread this narrative online...which excuses the great man on account of how his generals failed him.  A replacement would not be forced to commit to putins errors, but could definitely benefit from his lies.  

So, no, I don't think that any end to the war that doesn't install a us or chinese puppet will amount to such a chance.  Only ones that directly benefit putin, and immediately, will do that.   Though I do think the second half of that is true no matter what.  The next leader of russia will by force of necessity have to look for lower hanging fruit than ukraine.

Very much agreed. The Russians have a historical habit of eating dead leaders, only to s]regurgitate the efflux[/s] rehabilitate him when it proves useful to a future regime.

[Silver]

Russian telly airs Melanoa nudes. Oi vey.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Ignore function removes after time? Lovely.

It doesn't, I've had some folks on ignore for a year or more -- @Cavebear, for instance. First 90 days, then he's still driveling dribble, so a year to follow. Inn neither case was any action needed to continue the iggy.

[Fireball]

I've had some people on ignore for years. I peak at their stuff every once in awhile. Yup, still simps.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Ignore function removes after time? Lovely.

It doesn't, I've had some folks on ignore for a year or more -- @Cavebear, for instance. First 90 days, then he's still driveling dribble, so a year to follow. Inn neither case was any action needed to continue the iggy.

Alright, probably just something went weird on my end. Appreciate it.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Alright, probably just something went weird on my end. Appreciate it.

Yup your free to cower and hide like bitch awhile longer