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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 23, 2025 at 1:18 am
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2025 at 1:27 am by The Grand Nudger.)
That tendency for misinformation to flow upward internally, and not just outward as planned, is also why gerasimov and shoigu were content to rely on meatwave tactics. Dead reckoning, literally. You can either depend on a complicated network of earnest battle reports from trusted professional soldiers to tell you whether you've gained this or that meter of ground - or you can estimate how many corpses from previous assaults gaining said meter ought to take..and keep saying "forward" until that many of your men have died.
In the context of lying subordinates, counting corpses is the superior control strategy. It is illegal to say this in russia.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 23, 2025 at 1:56 am
As we learned in Vietnam, body-counts make for a very inaccurate scoreboard in military affairs.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 23, 2025 at 2:17 am
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2025 at 2:18 am by Deesse23.)
(December 23, 2025 at 1:14 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The problem with disinformation is when you start believing your own -- or when your subordinates start practicing it on you. Happened in my company
First we bullshitted customers, then management started to believe their own lies. Underlings who weren't following were dismissed .
Net result: 50% of r&d laid off. Company split due to the fact that we turned big profits into net losses. Top management now working for competitors and former customers.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 5:02 am
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2025 at 5:03 am by Belacqua.)
In Zelensky's latest green screen speech, he has accused the Russians of being unChristian! He says they are attacking like ATHEISTS!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 8:17 am
(December 23, 2025 at 1:18 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That tendency for misinformation to flow upward internally, and not just outward as planned, is also why gerasimov and shoigu were content to rely on meatwave tactics. Dead reckoning, literally. You can either depend on a complicated network of earnest battle reports from trusted professional soldiers to tell you whether you've gained this or that meter of ground - or you can estimate how many corpses from previous assaults gaining said meter ought to take..and keep saying "forward" until that many of your men have died.
In the context of lying subordinates, counting corpses is the superior control strategy. It is illegal to say this in russia.
From what I've heard the Russian proceedure now is after sending a group on one of their attacks anyone who doesn't report in afterwards is simply listed as AWOL. This saves Moscow from having to pay compensation to families.
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 9:16 am
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2025 at 9:20 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 25, 2025 at 5:02 am)Belacqua Wrote: In Zelensky's latest green screen speech, he has accused the Russians of being unChristian! He says they are attacking like ATHEISTS!
So what? Christians regularly use the atheist-as-villain trope. Why should that change my opinion on the rectitude of this invasion by your boy Putin?
Newsflash: not everyone is as stupid as you. Trai moar. 1/10, troll suckage extraordinaire.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 9:33 am
Jumping jesus on a pogo stick. The green screen cope is a particularly russian fixation. Hook line and sinker with this tool, everytime.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 9:59 am
(December 25, 2025 at 9:33 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Jumping jesus on a pogo stick. The green screen cope is a particularly russian fixation. Hook line and sinker with this tool, everytime.
Poll: green-screen or Olympian- loooooooooooooong dining table?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 10:25 am
The shadow Russia casts over Europe has forced it to face the truth: the risk of war is once again real
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/25/europe/ru...s-intl-cmd
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
December 25, 2025 at 10:33 am
(December 25, 2025 at 10:25 am)Paraselene Wrote: The shadow Russia casts over Europe has forced it to face the truth: the risk of war is once again real
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/25/europe/ru...s-intl-cmd
From the linked article:
Quote:There is a growing consensus among experts that Russia is already waging a hybrid war on the West by conducting sabotage operations and injecting chaos and disinformation into domestic political discussions. They point to the overwhelming evidence, including repeated incursions into NATO airspace by Russian planes and drones and GPS jamming in the Baltics, to disinformation campaigns, and sabotage attacks against critical infrastructure in multiple countries that have been traced back to Russian secret services. Russia has consistently denied involvement.
Somehow this gets overlooked in general news, with this article being a pleasant exception. Russia does not want peace. Russia speaks the language of peace while undertaking the actions of hostility.
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